What the Bible realy teaches
19 Apr '13 14:14There are a couple passages/teachings in the Bible which the opening post seems to ignore.
1. That the Earth is temporary place for man’s abode and not the permanent location of the Kingdom of Heaven. The advice from Christ and the Apostles therefore, has always been to focus on heavenly things and ignore earthly or temporal things. There are many Christians who cannot help but to seek after worldly things despite warnings from Christ and the Apostles. They have even interpreted the Bible’s description of God’s Kingdom so that it includes a lot of material earthly prosperity. It is their idea that the Kingdom will have lots to eat and drink, lots of nice things to enjoy, nice cars etc and lots of man-made luxury in general. And this they do because material things and worldly things bring happiness to them. But the teachings of the Apostles is clear .. that is to forget about this world. The life of the saint in the Kingdom is not meat and drink ..”but righteousness, and peace, and joy..”.
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. (1 John 2:15-17)
For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. (Php 3:18-21)
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. (Col 3:1-4)
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Mat 6:20-21)
2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
The abode of the righteous is not going to be on this planet Earth but would be the heavenly kingdom referred to in Revelation as the New Jerusalem. This is the Kingdom which the patriarchs saw afar off .. the new city built by God for the saints.
Hebrews 11:10-16 KJV For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. (11) …. (13) These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. (14) For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. (15) And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. (16) But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
2. That mankind will cease to exist. True God made to Earth for the children of men to inhabit.
Psa 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. And, Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
However mankind is a mortal temporal being that cannot exist in his present state and in this present location eternally. Man needs the protection that this Earth affords in order to survive. To be immortal man’s physical composition must be changed from a corruptible one to an incorruptible one. After the final judgment there will be two classes of people : the evil ones who will be destroyed in the lake of fire [Rev 21] and righteous ones who will be transformed into angels with bodies like Christ. So NO PEOPLE like what we are accustomed to will exist after that. That’s the end of mankind.
(Isaiah 65:17) – “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former things shall not be remembered or come to mind.”
Mat_22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
1Co_15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
(Php 3:20-21) For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
The saints will be like Christ and the angels - NOT MEN. So it makes perfect sense and given the references quoted that God would not need this earth neither Eden because there are no more men to inhabit the earth. Hence the very clear statements that it will be destroyed [Peter 3 and Rev 21].
Proponent of the view stated in the opening post have not fully thought out and fit together all the pieces in the information given in the Bible regarding this era after the reign on Christ on the Earth. If the saints will have bodies like Christ and be like the angels then what exactly on this planet earth would angelic beings need. Beings with angelic saintly bodies have no need for sun or moon, light or air, water or food, cars or transportation, or material things in general. Angels move and live on the power of Holy Spirit. This planet will be useless and that is why it is stated so clearly that the earthly things are temporary or passing and that the earth will be destroyed.
It is a scientific certainty that the Earth will be destroyed sometime in the future. Astronomers have witnessed hundreds of suns which have imploded and destroyed the surrounding planets. True God can delay or stop it from happening by why do that when the righteous saints have been moved away from this frail planet into the New Jerusalem [Rev21].
1. That the Earth is temporary place for man’s abode and not the permanent location of the Kingdom of Heaven. The advice from Christ and the Apostles therefore, has always been to focus on heavenly things and ignore earthly or temporal things. There are many Christians who cannot help but to seek after worldly things despite warnings from Christ and the Apostles. They have even interpreted the Bible’s description of God’s Kingdom so that it includes a lot of material earthly prosperity. It is their idea that the Kingdom will have lots to eat and drink, lots of nice things to enjoy, nice cars etc and lots of man-made luxury in general. And this they do because material things and worldly things bring happiness to them. But the teachings of the Apostles is clear .. that is to forget about this world. The life of the saint in the Kingdom is not meat and drink ..”but righteousness, and peace, and joy..”.
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. (1 John 2:15-17)
For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. (Php 3:18-21)
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. (Col 3:1-4)
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Mat 6:20-21)
2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
The abode of the righteous is not going to be on this planet Earth but would be the heavenly kingdom referred to in Revelation as the New Jerusalem. This is the Kingdom which the patriarchs saw afar off .. the new city built by God for the saints.
Hebrews 11:10-16 KJV For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. (11) …. (13) These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. (14) For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. (15) And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. (16) But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
2. That mankind will cease to exist. True God made to Earth for the children of men to inhabit.
Psa 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. And, Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
However mankind is a mortal temporal being that cannot exist in his present state and in this present location eternally. Man needs the protection that this Earth affords in order to survive. To be immortal man’s physical composition must be changed from a corruptible one to an incorruptible one. After the final judgment there will be two classes of people : the evil ones who will be destroyed in the lake of fire [Rev 21] and righteous ones who will be transformed into angels with bodies like Christ. So NO PEOPLE like what we are accustomed to will exist after that. That’s the end of mankind.
(Isaiah 65:17) – “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former things shall not be remembered or come to mind.”
Mat_22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
1Co_15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
(Php 3:20-21) For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
The saints will be like Christ and the angels - NOT MEN. So it makes perfect sense and given the references quoted that God would not need this earth neither Eden because there are no more men to inhabit the earth. Hence the very clear statements that it will be destroyed [Peter 3 and Rev 21].
Proponent of the view stated in the opening post have not fully thought out and fit together all the pieces in the information given in the Bible regarding this era after the reign on Christ on the Earth. If the saints will have bodies like Christ and be like the angels then what exactly on this planet earth would angelic beings need. Beings with angelic saintly bodies have no need for sun or moon, light or air, water or food, cars or transportation, or material things in general. Angels move and live on the power of Holy Spirit. This planet will be useless and that is why it is stated so clearly that the earthly things are temporary or passing and that the earth will be destroyed.
It is a scientific certainty that the Earth will be destroyed sometime in the future. Astronomers have witnessed hundreds of suns which have imploded and destroyed the surrounding planets. True God can delay or stop it from happening by why do that when the righteous saints have been moved away from this frail planet into the New Jerusalem [Rev21].
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