Originally posted by karoly aczelWell, yes. Even Catholics who must believe in the efficacy of confession and absolution do not believe that it 'changes behaviour'. They believe that it gives them grace and help to battle against sin, but they also acknowledge that temptation remains just as strong and that they will likely end up in the confessional next Saturday. What they do believe is that they are forgiven their sins, not that their behaviour is changed.
confessing stuff is only the start of changing behaviour. (If thats what the OP was getting at). If you think toddling of to a little confession box every now and then, or telling people you really love them, or whatever, is enough, then you're nuts.
Originally posted by Conrau KWhich is why I'm not a Catholic
Well, yes. Even Catholics who must believe in the efficacy of confession and absolution do not believe that it 'changes behaviour'. They believe that it gives them grace and help to battle against sin, but they also acknowledge that temptation remains just as strong and that they will likely end up in the confessional next Saturday. What they do believe is that they are forgiven their sins, not that their behaviour is changed.
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Originally posted by karoly aczelthird party perspective? you mean you actually believe that Raj writes his own script? and i should be the recipient of what is third, fourth, fifth, sixth and a thousandth hand opinions of persons who have nothing but ill will and axes to grind, no thanks, i have my own evaluations to make, that sort of bilge i can get on the net any time!
Third party perspective
Originally posted by karoly aczelim nuts, but my point ...you missed.
confessing stuff is only the start of changing behaviour. (If thats what the OP was getting at). If you think toddling of to a little confession box every now and then, or telling people you really love them, or whatever, is enough, then you're nuts.
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Originally posted by stokeras you see the post "what was your last confession?" i asked if in pray or to another human???. was the original question to be taken in praying to god or as get it off your mind in a converse with another person, [not always a priest}.
in pray or to another human???
you seemed to take another view of my answer.
confessing is only a part of the solution to cleaning of sins, if you confess a sin then repeat the sin thinking ive been washed so i will be washed again so i can reoffend, then they do not understand.
Originally posted by stokerRight, Sorry.
as you see the post "what was your last confession?" i asked if in pray or to another human???. was the original question to be taken in praying to god or as get it off your mind in a converse with another person, [not always a priest}.
you seemed to take another view of my answer.
confessing is only a part of the solution to cleaning of sins, if you confe ...[text shortened]... king ive been washed so i will be washed again so i can reoffend, then they do not understand.
My last confession is this-I didn't read your post properly, please forgive me ,dear Stoker🙂
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiei have my own evaluations to make
third party perspective? you mean you actually believe that Raj writes his own script? and i should be the recipient of what is third, fourth, fifth, sixth and a thousandth hand opinions of persons who have nothing but ill will and axes to grind, no thanks, i have my own evaluations to make, that sort of bilge i can get on the net any time!
As long as they fit with doctrine as set by the Governing Body.