Originally posted by knightmeisterWhy no responses?
For those of you who are determinists and believe that knowing someone's future timeline excludes free will..........
If Hitler really did have free will and actually made free choices about what he did (for arguments sake) then what difference would we notice?
Would we be able to tell by looking at his future timeline?
Would knowing what th ...[text shortened]... I just don't see how God knowing our future timelines excludes our free will either.
Originally posted by knightmeisterOops. My, uh, bad.
It 's been 5 days actually , have a look.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageBut if his actions were free how would we be able to tell merely by our knowledge of history?
Oops. My, uh, bad.
Lately I've been swayed by views -- Spinoza's, Nietszche's -- that we don't really have free will -- and that that's not that big a deal. The Muslim concept of submission springs to mind. Anyway ... If you adopt a purely materialist viewpoint, Hitler's actions were pretty much predetermined.
Originally posted by Andrew HamiltonI think this is a good argument. If the universe is all that there is then every choice is either random or determined by some other cause. Either way that is not true free will in the Christian sense.
Speaking from my own point of view (as an atheist), there is not such thing as ‘free will‘. That is because:
1, if the future is predetermined then it would be hypothetically possible (and only hypothetically possible) to predict everybody’s thoughts and decisions if only we could know the precise position and state of every particle in the unive ...[text shortened]... tly determined and partly random -that would only mean that both arguments 1 and 2 partly apply.