What's wrong with evolution?

Originally posted by googlefudge
Ok consider the concept of an entity (the form of which is for the moment irrelevant, but which I will for the moment anthropomorphise for clarity and narrative structure) with amazing design skills and knowledge, that border on if not reach 'perfection' and who decides to design and build earth and all the creatures on it at some point around 6000 years ...[text shortened]... he scientist separate, theism isn't rational, and thus isn't open too rational logic.

You define rational by?
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
No I brought up the words pop quiz first, you just broke out the quiz.
Kelly

What quiz?

Originally posted by scottishinnz
What quiz?

You wanted me to do what once I read you papers?
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Yes, I do want it; I’m glad you noticed and finely came around to
posting this so we can clear it up. You can call evolutionary biology
science or not, it does not now, nor has it ever mattered to me if it is
called science or not. I have been very clear on this point forever, and
I believe even you have agreed with me on why that is true. Reality is
w ...[text shortened]... you think that makes me small
minded, than color me small minded, I can live with that.
Kelly

The evidence that you refuse to look at is the proof of evolutionary theory.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
The evidence that you refuse to look at is the proof of evolutionary theory.

Sorry I have been an a$$ to you in this discussion Scott, my bad.
I'll get back to trying to drive you nuts by disagreeing with you
a little later.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Sorry I have been an a$$ to you in this discussion Scott, my bad.
I'll get back to trying to drive you nuts by disagreeing with you
a little later.
Kelly

Likewise, sorry for also being an a$$. It's nothing personal - you know that.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
The evidence that you refuse to look at is the proof of evolutionary theory.

What are you trying to prove here, that evolution is science, or that
what we call evolution is what is taking place in reality?
Kelly

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Likewise, sorry for also being an a$$. It's nothing personal - you know that.

Yes I do, thanks for saying as much too, means a lot.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
What are you trying to prove here, that evolution is science, or that
what we call evolution is what is taking place in reality?
Kelly

Both.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Both.

No one I know has said evolution isn't science.
How it plays out in reality is another thing.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
No one I know has said evolution isn't science.
How it plays out in reality is another thing.
Kelly

Scientists never claim absolute knowledge. Unlike a mathematical proof, a proven scientific theory is always open to falsification, if new evidence is presented. Even the most basic and fundamental theories may turn out to be imperfect if new observations are inconsistent with them. Critical to this process is making every relevant aspect of research publicly available, which permits peer review of published results, and also allows ongoing review and repeating of experiments and observations by multiple researchers operating independently of one another. Only by fulfilling these expectations can it be determined how reliable the experimental results are for potential use by others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

So either present evidence that contradicts Evolution or stop complaining that it is taught as science. If there is evidence that doesn't fit then the theory gets adapated. Just like Newton's Laws of Motion and Gravitation got changed when applying them to high velocity and high gravitational fields.

Originally posted by KellyJay
No one I know has said evolution isn't science.
How it plays out in reality is another thing.
Kelly

Just curious, what if the leaders of your faith, whatever that is, says
'we were wrong, evolution is the way live happened on earth, including the history of mankind". Would you still say evolution was wrong?

Originally posted by sonhouse
Just curious, what if the leaders of your faith, whatever that is, says
'we were wrong, evolution is the way live happened on earth, including the history of mankind". Would you still say evolution was wrong?

I'm not in a cult, there isn't going to be a 'leader' telling me what
I have to believe. There religions and secular groups that do that
you don't have to be in a religious group to be told what to believe.
Kelly

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Scientists never claim absolute knowledge. Unlike a mathematical proof, a proven scientific theory is always open to falsification, if new evidence is presented. Even the most basic and fundamental theories may turn out to be imperfect if new observations are inconsistent with them. Critical to this process is making every relevant aspect of research publi ...[text shortened]... and Gravitation got changed when applying them to high velocity and high gravitational fields.

After the round and round Scott and I had, can you show me one
place I said evolution shouldn't be taught as science? Man, what is
with you? You have a brain fart and that just will not stop or
something?
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
After the round and round Scott and I had, can you show me one
place I said evolution shouldn't be taught as science? Man, what is
with you? You have a brain fart and that just will not stop or
something?
Kelly

Did you or did you not say that scott was doing something other than teaching science by correcting his students on Evolution?
(This is a yes or no question Kelly, don't weasel around for three pages as you normally do)