If you can prove that God's Word is wrong
then prove it. I'm REAL sure that everyone in this forum
would love to read the proof.
Oh, I'm sorry, I promised everyone that I'd cite a book that would
CRUSH evolution. I'll post it tomorrow.
Seriously, you mean to tell me (thinking of your children) that you
cannot believe in the one true God? He made all of us. I can
tell that the Spirit is somewhere in you.
Oh yeah, explain the book of John while you're at it.
How Jesus came into the world, then the Holy Spirit lit like a dove
on Jesus' shoulder then the heavens opened up and God
said, 'This is my son with whom I am pleased' AND if ANYONE
would have looked skyward (after the heavens up they would have
seen the throne room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have more, if your are prepared my friend.
May the Lord Jesus Christ be with you
Originally posted by NosracOh my God, how wrong have I been. You are so right. The book of John explains everything. Thank you thank you. Just opening the pages gives me goosebumps.
If you can prove that God's Word is wrong
then prove it. I'm REAL sure that everyone in this forum
would love to read the proof.
Oh, I'm sorry, I promised everyone that I'd cite a book that would
CRUSH evolution. I'll post it tomorrow.
Seriously, you mean to tell me (thinking of your children) that you
cannot believe in the one true God? He made all ...[text shortened]... !!
I have more, if your are prepared my friend.
May the Lord Jesus Christ be with you
Praise the lord.
I am saved.
Praise Jesus.
And praise you too Carson, praise you.
The spirit is within me ...
... or some sort of spirit anyway.
Originally posted by NosracWell, the bit on page one where it says that land plants were created before the sun, and the bit where it has birds created before land animals are surely wrong. Either that or all the physical evidence (and there is alot) that has ever been found is wrong. Which is it to be?
If you can prove that God's Word is wrong
then prove it. I'm REAL sure that everyone in this forum
would love to read the proof.
Oh, I'm sorry, I promised everyone that I'd cite a book that would
CRUSH evolution. I'll post it tomorrow.
Seriously, you mean to tell me (thinking of your children) that you
cannot believe in the one true God? He made all ...[text shortened]... !!
I have more, if your are prepared my friend.
May the Lord Jesus Christ be with you
Originally posted by scottishinnzI agree, but we are not talking about facts when it comes to
Sure, it's a theory - go look that up.
A theory is an EXPLANATION of a set of facts.
changes adding up to form a heart, brain, and so on. We have
small changes, the theory takes that and says they add up,
the adding up then goes on to form new complex functional systems
within living beings, which after awhile become brand new living
beings that were never here before.
Adding new organs all the while keeping each life form alive, I once
read is like adding new gears to a watch while it is keeping time and
not causing it to break. It is quite a leap of faith!
Kelly
Originally posted by AThousandYoungCool, how do you know again?
[b]What was the food supply for the life after that event?
Inorganic molecules. NTPs, phospholipids, etc.
Life had to start with the ability to multiply, just being alive isn’t
good enough if it cannot reproduce no second chance after the first
generation it all dies off and no life.
Phospholipid vesicles and nucleic acids multiply by their very nature. Reproduction came before life.[/b]
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayIrrespective of some guys cliches evolutionary theory explains the fossil record, the diversity of life taking only observed phenomena. Do we need to observe, in real time, every facet of the theory? I don't think so. Neither does the majority of biologists on the planet. It seems only that the Christian fraternity requires that - ironic really, since it's impossible to observe god objectively.
I agree, but we are not talking about facts when it comes to
changes adding up to form a heart, brain, and so on. We have
small changes, the theory takes that and says they add up,
the adding up then goes on to form new complex functional systems
within living beings, which after awhile become brand new living
beings that were never here before.
Add ...[text shortened]... watch while it is keeping time and
not causing it to break. It is quite a leap of faith!
Kelly
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Originally posted by micarrWe keep an open mind on matters however not soon open everything falls out (baby out with the bathwater error). The posited hypothetical apperance of LUCA (last universal common ancestor; other presumably again hypothetical domains and niches of life existed and were outcompeted it is thought) is indeed inferred from phylogenetic reconstruction but we have no satisfactory counter-hypothesis that is based on actual empirical evidence. Sans a time machine we cannot know WITH PRESENT TECHNOLOGY however as I mentioned genome sequencing allied with good fast parrallel array supercomputers is helping refine our understanding including things "out of the blue" like mimiviris (see bigvirus.org and the work on epigenetic unfurlment of rapid latent ontogenetic development programmes) I mentioned earlier.
I would not want to do jury duty with you KellyJay!
Life can be made in the lab nowadays I am sure you know indeed new life by cobbling toether bits of different viruses by genetic enginerring and indeed made from scratch i.e. HIV is ~9kb of an RNA genome so we can make this with phosphorothiate chemistry nucleotide by nucleotide and create in vitro a selection event and then clone/sequence the emergent quasi-species say to understand a new drug action etc.
This whole section, I respectfully put forward, should be in debate rather than "spirituality" as science as I have mentioned has nothing to say about the world great religions and their respective posited comogonies. We should have a section on each of the creationist counter-hypotheses versus evolution by natural selection as I fear the less knowledgable on here are not aware of much of the half of this. Regards, micarr
Originally posted by KellyJayEvolution doesn't add new organs. Small changes couldn't possibly do that. New organs, like any other function in living things, have evolved from earlier organs and functions.
I agree, but we are not talking about facts when it comes to
changes adding up to form a heart, brain, and so on. We have
small changes, the theory takes that and says they add up,
the adding up then goes on to form new complex functional systems
within living beings, which after awhile become brand new living
beings that were never here before.
Add ...[text shortened]... watch while it is keeping time and
not causing it to break. It is quite a leap of faith!
Kelly
Fossil analysis matches the incus and malleus in the middle ear of mammals (hammer and anvil bones) with lower jaw bones in early reptiles. Evolution, over time, has found a new use for a pre-existing object. The mammalian ear - or part of it at least - has evolved from a reptilian jaw. The ear hasn't sprung out of nowhere - it's evolved from pre-existing objects.
The theory continues this process of following recent objects back to more distant precursors.
Again, the only major problem becomes explaining the origin of the first species - but this is NOT an evolutionary issue, since the theory of evolution makes no claim to origins of life.
(I'll leave that for scottish ...)
Originally posted by NosracBut science has shown over and over again that the earth is 4 byo and the sun 6 byo. That's a direct contradiction to the bible. Land plants are only 400 million years old. Again, shown many times. I think you should present your evidence that the bible is correct.
Your sarcasim shows your how naive your are about the Bible.
so...PROVE IT c'mon now it should be really easy
Originally posted by scottishinnzTis the wurd of the lard
But science has shown over and over again that the earth is 4 byo and the sun 6 byo. That's a direct contradiction to the bible. Land plants are only 400 million years old. Again, shown many times. I think you should present your evidence that the bible is correct.
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Originally posted by NosracIf you prove that the Muslim's word of God is wrong
If you can prove that God's Word is wrong
then prove it. I'm REAL sure that everyone in this forum
would love to read the proof.
Oh, I'm sorry, I promised everyone that I'd cite a book that would
CRUSH evolution. I'll post it tomorrow.
Seriously, you mean to tell me (thinking of your children) that you
cannot believe in the one true God? He made all !!
I have more, if your are prepared my friend.
May the Lord Jesus Christ be with you
then prove it. I'm REAL sure everyone in this forum
would love to read the proof.
Seriously, you mean to tell me (thinking of your children) that you
cannot believe in the one true God?
LOL!
EDIT: This is a joke, right? Actually I dont think this is. No one could possible imitate a brainwashed zombie like that.