Originally posted by NosracTry to get used to the fact that the majority of people in the world do not accept the bible as the literal truth. FFS not even the majority of christians accept every word of the bible as the literal truth
There was a flood, Noah did build the Ark.
Man, it's ALL in the Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nosrac
Originally posted by amannionGood question.
Why does evolution have to be antagonistic to religion?
There are many scientists, including evolutionary biologists who are religious - and yet a small and very vocal minority seems to believe that to accept evolution means rejecting their religious beliefs, and so reject evolution.
Why is this?
Does it have to be the case?
I can't myself see any confl ...[text shortened]... s, other than when the Bible is read literally which is clearly a ridiculous viewpoint to take.
Personally I believe that Intelligent Life did not originate or evolve here in our fourth space time dimensional continuum where electromagnetism, gravity, weak and strong nuclear force are all separate from each other. Since Dr. Hawking and others believe that all four forces can be unified into a single SuperForce in ten or eleven higher invisible space time dimensions...then obviously Intelligent Life would originate in the truly fundamental SuperForce/Super Energetic Matter...or in the energy source that SuperForce was perhaps made from.
Our universe may be as young as ten or twenty billion years...not nearly enough time for life as we know it to evolve by pure random chance...so life evolving in some sort of Energy that would always have existed...would be infinitely more probable.
NDE experiencers talk about viewing layers of invisible dimensions that seem to be super imposed over and along side of each other...this sure seems to fit with some of the comments on Grand Unification Theory or Theories of Everything.
This is a good site on quotations from famous scientists who have concluded that pure evolution is extremely unlikely:
http://www.creationdesign.org/Comments%20on%20Evolution2.html
Quotations on Evolution by Various Scientists
Personally...I believe that This Eternal Life form evolves/learns...I suspect that there was once a time when This Being/Beings did not know how to create squirrels...but they kept on working on it...until they perfected the squirrel prototype...I believe that the word miracle is misleading and from another perspective...all Biblical miracles are really the application of technology that is vastly superior to ours!
Originally posted by tate4242Turns out you are an ignorant bastard. Good luck with getting elected.
Good question.
Personally I believe that Intelligent Life did not originate or evolve here in our fourth space time dimensional continuum where electromagnetism, gravity, weak and strong nuclear force are all separate from each other. Since Dr. Hawking and others believe that all four forces can be unified into a single SuperForce in ten or eleven highe ...[text shortened]... ationdesign.org/Comments%20on%20Evolution2.html
Quotations on Evolution by Various Scientists
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Originally posted by tate4242I found this quote among tons of others:
This is a good site on quotations from famous scientists who have concluded that pure evolution is extremely unlikely:
http://www.creationdesign.org/Comments%20on%20Evolution2.html
Quotations on Evolution by Various Scientists
"Life cannot have had a random beginning. The trouble is that there are about two thousand enzymes, and the chance of obtaining them all in a random trial is only one part in 10^40,000, an outrageously small probability that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup." -- unattributed
Do you think this is a good one?
Further, what are the chances that I would have selected this one out of all the hundreds listed for presentation here? Was it a blind, random selection? Was the selection driven by an omnipotent and omniscient creator? Or might there be another explanation --- perhaps some selective pressures involved in this quote being chosen, due to its particular features of being a strawman attack against evolution, coupled with the environment constituted by my perusal for strawman attacks of evolution?
Originally posted by tate4242Why do you suppose the author of the page included this quote:
This is a good site on quotations from famous scientists who have concluded that pure evolution is extremely unlikely:
http://www.creationdesign.org/Comments%20on%20Evolution2.html
Quotations on Evolution by Various Scientists
"I regard Christianity as the most fatal, seductive lie that has ever existed." -- Adolf Hitler
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Originally posted by tate4242What a load of crap. You obviously have no idea whatsoever about evolutionary theory. Go out and read a book, any book, immediately.
Good question.
Personally I believe that Intelligent Life did not originate or evolve here in our fourth space time dimensional continuum where electromagnetism, gravity, weak and strong nuclear force are all separate from each other. Since Dr. Hawking and others believe that all four forces can be unified into a single SuperForce in ten or eleven highe ...[text shortened]... ationdesign.org/Comments%20on%20Evolution2.html
Quotations on Evolution by Various Scientists
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesNice trap there Scribs.
I found this quote among tons of others:
[quote]"Life cannot have had a random beginning. The trouble is that there are about two thousand enzymes, and the chance of obtaining them all in a random trial is only one part in 10^40,000, an outrageously small probability that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup." - ...[text shortened]... ion, coupled with the environment constituted by my perusal for strawman attacks of evolution?
Originally posted by scottishinnzThere are witnesses for God, all evidence is, is what we each see,
One major difference is that we have evidence for billions of years, but not your god.
and the claims we make about it. You can have evidence right in front
of you, but you may make up any story you want to dismiss it so
you don't have confront what is before you. You accuse me of doing
that all the time, but I imagine you don't think you do it yourself.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJaykelly, I have a task for you.
There are witnesses for God, all evidence is, is what we each see,
and the claims we make about it. You can have evidence right in front
of you, but you may make up any story you want to dismiss it so
you don't have confront what is before you. You accuse me of doing
that all the time, but I imagine you don't think you do it yourself.
Kelly
Get a piece of string. Get a ruler. Measure the string. Now, get another ruler. Remeasure the string. Then another ruler, then another, then another, remeasure it each time. If they all give you the same result would you agree that that value is the length of the piece of string, or is it just faith?
Originally posted by scottishinnzThen ask him to measure God.
kelly, I have a task for you.
Get a piece of string. Get a ruler. Measure the string. Now, get another ruler. Remeasure the string. Then another ruler, then another, then another, remeasure it each time. If they all give you the same result would you agree that that value is the length of the piece of string, or is it just faith?
It shouldn't be too difficult. Apparently there are "witnesses". 😉
Originally posted by KellyJayCare to provide this 'evidence' for God?
There are witnesses for God, all evidence is, is what we each see,
and the claims we make about it. You can have evidence right in front
of you, but you may make up any story you want to dismiss it so
you don't have confront what is before you. You accuse me of doing
that all the time, but I imagine you don't think you do it yourself.
Kelly
Originally posted by scottishinnzFaith in the length of the ruler durrrrrrrrr.
kelly, I have a task for you.
Get a piece of string. Get a ruler. Measure the string. Now, get another ruler. Remeasure the string. Then another ruler, then another, then another, remeasure it each time. If they all give you the same result would you agree that that value is the length of the piece of string, or is it just faith?
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Originally posted by XanthosNZBut if you had 100 rulers, all independantly callibrated, and they all gave the same reading, is it still "just faith"?
Faith in the length of the ruler durrrrrrrrr.
That's what radiometric dating is like Kelly, that's why we know the earth is billions of years old.
Please, refresh us as to how you know the earth is only 6000 years old?
You dont' have to try and measure God because no one can.
Try measuring the entire universe.
Why?
Because God created all of it.
Good movie on this is from Moody Press about Space.
Y'all scientists and evolutionists will have REAL FUN
with that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
And did y'all establish who wrote the Bible?
It was God!
And did y'all establish how man came from apes?
OOOOOOh that should be exciting because we should still be
EVOLVING, or isn't this: WHAT'S WRONG WITH EVOLUTION? 101