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Whence came evil?

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Originally posted by Phuzudaka
Have you seen wind in a jar?
I must introduce you to dj2becker...I think you'd get on like twins.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
I must introduce you to dj2becker...I think you'd get on like twins.
I take it you aren't going to answer the question?

By the way, who is dj?

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Originally posted by Phuzudaka
I take it you aren't going to answer the question?

By the way, who is dj?
He's a guy who stopped moving 12 days ago, about the same time your account was created. He asks the same questions as you and speaks Zulu, too. Marvellous coincidence.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
He's a guy who stopped moving 12 days ago, about the same time your account was created. He asks the same questions as you and speaks Zulu, too. Marvellous coincidence.
Interesting.

Is dj real? Have you placed him/her in a jar?

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Originally posted by Phuzudaka
Interesting.

Is dj real? Have you placed him/her in a jar?
I wish I could.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
I wish I could.
But is dj real or not? It seems you are evading the question. If you cannot put him/her in a jar would you conclude that he/she is not real? How about emotions such as love and joy? Can you put them in a jar? Are feelings real?

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Originally posted by Phuzudaka
If you cannot put him/her in a jar would you conclude that he/she is not real? How about emotions such as love and joy? Can you put them in a jar? Are feelings real?
1. Yes. We could always find a big enough jar. Of course he might be some sort of unknown incorporeal life form, like a sentient gas. That would be interesting. (But we could still find the right jar. Oh, and wind being a movement of air, put some air in a jar and you have (potential) wind).
2. Good question. Feelings are produced effects, much like colours, and are necessarily relational. So, they do not exist on their own, and cannot be said to exist in the following sense:

"Real. Philos. Having an existence in fact and not merely in appearance, thought, or language; having an absolute and necessary, not merely a contingent, existence."

If I say "I am in love with dj2becker", I am describing the emotional effect produced on myself by the fact of his existence, but this effect is contingent on other factors, such as his being so damn sexy.

Happy to be corrected.

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Originally posted by Phuzudaka
Moving smoke is wind?
according to Merriam Webster:

1 b : an artificially produced movement of air
Of course what you see is the smoke particles only but that allows you to 'observe' the movement of the air.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
according to Merriam Webster:

1 b : an artificially produced movement of air
Of course what you see is the smoke particles only but that allows you to 'observe' the movement of the air.
Is there not a difference bewteen moving smoke and moving air? Smoke moves out of a chimney. Would you say that is wind?

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Originally posted by Phuzudaka
Is there not a difference bewteen moving smoke and moving air? Smoke moves out of a chimney. Would you say that is wind?
You and dj also have the deliberate obtuseness in common.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
You and dj also have the deliberate obtuseness in common.
And there are so many people on this forum that have so many things in common with so many people that I know.

You for example have plenty in common with a character on Umuzi We'nsizwa.

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Originally posted by Phuzudaka
You for example have plenty in common with a character on Umuzi We'nsizwa.
Tell me about him!

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Tell me about him!
His name is Mkhize. Just like you seemed to find some similarity betwenn myself and a character named dj, he found pretty much in common with car keys and khakis.

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Originally posted by Phuzudaka
His name is Mkhize. Just like you seemed to find some similarity betwenn myself and a character named dj, he found pretty much in common with car keys and khakis.
I can't wait to hear you get started on the theory of evolution...

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
I can't wait to hear you get started on the theory of evolution...
You don't believe that the theory of evolution is true?