Spirituality
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29 Nov 16
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Originally posted by Rajk999Good works is a natural outworking of true faith. The question is not should we do good works but rather wherein lies your faith? And what saves you? Your own righteousness or the righteousness of Christ?
Faith without works is dead. This has been repeated in different words by Christ and all the Aposlles. Therefore dead faith is faith without good works, while living faith includes good works. Dead faith ends up in eternal destruction while living faith leads to eternal life.
I have said nothing about my own righteousness so I will treat that like the win ...[text shortened]... u off the hook of having to do good works, but God is not fooled and you will reap what you sow.
29 Nov 16
Originally posted by Rajk999Good works is not necessarily the natural outflow of faith.
Good works is not necessarily the natural outflow of faith. It sometimes is and sometimes it is not. Hence the reason why James and many other Apostles took the trouble to explain it. If it were the natural outflow as you claim then there would no need to explain it and expound on the importance of doing good works.
Where is that written in the Bible?
29 Nov 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkJesus saves and Jesus stated who enters the Kingdom of God. He was not vague but crystal clear on that issue. Let me know if you need proof.
Good works is a natural outworking of true faith. The question is not should we do good works but rather wherein lies your faith? And what saves you? Your own righteousness or the righteousness of Christ?
So where does Jesus say : ".. The question is not should we do good works but rather wherein lies your faith? And what saves you? Your own righteousness or the righteousness of Christ?
29 Nov 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkNobody knows who does good works and who does not. This little fact is known only to God and Jesus. All we know of a man who says he is a Christian and believes in Jesus Christ, is that HE PROFESSES FAITH. You know nothing else. You know nothing about whether he has genuine faith or otherwise. So it is a useless claim to state that not everyone who professes faith has genuine faith because you are going into the unknown.
Not everyone who professes faith has genuine faith. Good works is evidence of genuine faith.
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Originally posted by Rajk999Jesus saves and Jesus stated who enters the Kingdom of God. He was not vague but crystal clear on that issue. Let me know if you need proof.
Jesus saves and Jesus stated who enters the Kingdom of God. He was not vague but crystal clear on that issue. Let me know if you need proof.
So where does Jesus say : ".. The question is not should we do good works but rather wherein lies your faith? And what saves you? Your own righteousness or the righteousness of Christ?
Does Jesus save those who do good works with no faith or those who have faith and thus do good works?
So where does Jesus say ...
It is a question that I asked you, not something Jesus said.
29 Nov 16
Originally posted by Rajk999So are you saying we are only saved by our good works and not by faith?
Nobody knows who does good works and who does not. This little fact is known only to God and Jesus. All we know of a man who says he is a Christian and believes in Jesus Christ, is that HE PROFESSES FAITH. You know nothing else. You know nothing about whether he has genuine faith or otherwise. So it is a useless claim to state that not everyone who professes faith has genuine faith because you are going into the unknown.
29 Nov 16
Originally posted by Rajk999When did I say I do not know what Jesus preached. I recall him preaching a lot more than just a few rules. You brought up the 'rules of Jesus' thing. So can you name the 'rules of Jesus'?
If you are professed Christian and you do not know what Jesus preached then you are a liar.
29 Nov 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkMatt 5, 6 and 7 are a good place to start. Jesus speaks of all those who are blessed and who will enter the Kingdom. Matt 25 tells exactly how he will judge people.All of his rules revolve around showing love and compassion to those in need. The Good Samaritan, Lazarus and the Rich Man, similarly speaks of the same thing.
When did I say I do not know what Jesus preached. I recall him preaching a lot more than just a few rules. You brought up the 'rules of Jesus' thing. So can you name the 'rules of Jesus'?
The Apostles say all the law can be summarized iin the following .. love thy neighbour as thyself. Paul spoke at length about good works and living righteously otherwise the Chrristian who professes faith will not get into the Kingdom of God.