Which religion is more spiritually bankrupt?

Originally posted by scottishinnz
The knowledge of the taste of an apple was obviously enough to condemn all mankind. The knowledge of right and wrong, without that knowledge Eve could not have known there would be any repercussions for eating the apple, nor that they would be bad, since bad didn't exist in her world.

Bruno was killed, and Galileo put under house arrest, for attempt ...[text shortened]... you'd all be reduced to slithering around on you bellies and asking permission to go pee-pee.

Small correction. Adam and the woman did not enter into condemnation for tasting an apple (or any other fruit, for that matter). The woman was deceived, but the man deliberately chose one system over another. They both decided (for different reasons) that they would rather have the system of "good and evil" rather than the system offered by God, the system of "lives."

The partaking of the fruit was merely symbolic of that choice. They knew beforehand what was at stake (dying, you will die), but opted to partake nonetheless. The choice (and immediate consequences) were crystal clear.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Small correction. Adam and the woman did not enter into condemnation for tasting an apple (or any other fruit, for that matter). The woman was deceived, but the man deliberately chose one system over another. They both decided (for different reasons) that they would rather have the system of "good and evil" rather than the system offered by God, the sys ...[text shortened]... t opted to partake nonetheless. The choice (and immediate consequences) were crystal clear.

The you are implying that they had knowledge of right and wrong, good and evil from the start. My interpretation of the bible is that that was not the case.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
The you are implying that they had knowledge of right and wrong, good and evil from the start. My interpretation of the bible is that that was not the case.

No implication of good or evil, only a knowledge of life or the real consequence of death. There was no good and evil; it was, as they say in the 'hood, 'all good.'

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Yes they did. Of course they did. If they didn't know the difference between right and wrong, then ANY action could not be considered right or wrong. God saying "don't do it" just wouldn't make sense, since the very concept of "don't do it" requires a value judgement. When all actions are equal, the question of choice is irrelevant.

No, not having knowledge of evil meant that they could have done
what you and I would know was evil and not understand evil, so the
correction could have come another way. That is quite different than
choosing to do an evil thing in full knowledge of what is evil. Being
in a state of innocence was where they were to be taught, that was
where they were protected, they did the one and only thing they
knew they were not to do, in full knowledge of going against God’s
command and we are all suffering for it.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
No, not having knowledge of evil meant that they could have done
what you and I would know was evil and not understand evil, so the
correction could have come another way. That is quite different than
choosing to do an evil thing in full knowledge of what is evil. Being
in a state of innocence was where they were to be taught, that was
where they were ...[text shortened]... to do, in full knowledge of going against God’s
command and we are all suffering for it.
Kelly

Do you really believe that we are all paying for Adam and Eve's mistake?

Man, that's sad...and all because you answered a Christian advert in a newspaper!!!!

Originally posted by howardgee
Do you really believe that we are all paying for Adam and Eve's mistake?

Man, that's sad...and all because you answered a Christian advert in a newspaper!!!!

I don't blame Adam and Eve. I think if it was me, I would have done the same thing. I just thank God that he cleaned up the mess.

Originally posted by howardgee
Do you really believe that we are all paying for Adam and Eve's mistake?

Man, that's sad...and all because you answered a Christian advert in a newspaper!!!!

You will pay for you own sins, mistakes are easy to forgive if it is
asked for; however, more times than not what is done with your eyes
wide open and in full understanding will be enough, you will convict
yourself as you condemn others.
Kelly