Who Condemns the Open Promotion of Hatred on SF?

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Radical fundamentalist Islamists are NOT true Islam. They are radical terrorists who are killing moderate fellow Moslems in far greater numbers than Westerners.

To preach hatred and conflict with Islam is their total intention in the awful acts they do.

The ONLY way to prevent their ascension is to work together with moderate and peaceful Islamic people, and to celebrate all the good things that Islam has bought to this world in history.

To do anything other is playing right into their hands like some insightless ultraright redneck fools on this forum.

In your haste to be the sole voice of peace, calm and reason you miss the point by a million miles.

Originally posted by Taoman
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Radic ...[text shortened]... s playing right into their hands like some insightless ultraright redneck fools on this forum.

All Islam should be abolished.

I have made a formal complaint to the site as to the nature of these posts. I for one am going to withdraw my patronage of RHP if they are not restricted as per the forum guidelines. It is inflammatory (probably intentionally) idiotic and wrong particularly in the Spirituality Forum. Those who just sit on their hands while this is happening are without honor. It is total error to condemn all of Islam on the basis of the action of radical Islamists. It is hatred.

Originally posted by Taoman
I have made a formal complaint to the site as to the nature of these posts. I for one am going to withdraw my patronage of RHP if they are not restricted as per the forum guidelines. It is inflammatory (probably intentionally) idiotic and wrong particularly in the Spirituality Forum. Those who just sit on their hands while this is happening are without honor. ...[text shortened]... al error to condemn all of Islam on the basis of the action of radical Islamists. It is hatred.

When was the last time you saw fundamental Christians
carrying out bombings and murders in the name of God?

Are you crazy? Are you another one of these loons who think that
if you kill a Christian you would go to paradise and have your way
with 70 virgins?

You are a nut if you think this.

Islam is a backward form of religion and it does nothing to
progress any human being. All it does is keep people in
ignorance and oppress women.

Apart from Christianity's long history of sectarian and murderous violence, the Spanish Inquisition, radical Christian fundamentalists in the modern period have committed violent acts of terror, often major and for years, in

Great Britain,
Northern Ireland,
Tripura, Assam and Odisha in India,
Norway,
Uganda,
United States and
Peru.

For further details, look under "Christian Terrorism" in Wiki.

Radical terrorism is a dangerous disease of the mind and of any religion. Moderates of all religions need to stand together against it. Most acts are cowardly ones committed by a few people against innocents indiscriminately in the name of one mad cause or another.
Adolf Hitler was a committed Christian by the way too, as was Germany a strongly Christian country, He used the religion in his tyrranical propaganda against the Jewish people and others.

Originally posted by Taoman

Adolf Hitler was a committed Christian by the way too, as was Germany a strongly Christian country, He used the religion in his tyrranical propaganda against the Jewish people and others.[/b]

Not quite that simple -

"I shall never come to terms with the Christian lie ..., Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity."

Adolf Hitler - 27 February 1942

Originally posted by Taoman
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Radic ...[text shortened]... s playing right into their hands like some insightless ultraright redneck fools on this forum.

Islam is just an evil distortion of Judaism and Christianity. So I agree with johnnylogwoody that Islam should be abolished. Cut out the cancer while we are still alive.

The Instructor

Originally posted by sonship
Not quite that simple -

"I shall never come to terms with the Christian lie ..., Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity."

Adolf Hitler - 27 February 1942

Nor that simple:

"The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”

[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

“I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the
character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has
never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred
years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its
amendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has been
rejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can be
built up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory or
irreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so long
as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it.”

[Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, _The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a
political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on
his personal Christian feelings. Published in "My New Order", quoted
in Freethought Today April 1990]

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his
estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove
those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]

I have another 52 quotes to hand, if you wish. Source:http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/08/23/list-of-hitler-quotes-he-was-q/

Dietrich Boenhoffer realised the incipient dangers in using religious differences to embroil humanity in hatred. Sometimes it is done intentionally, other times through insightless acceptance of unreasoning prejudice applied beyond the radical few to the normally peaceful many.Boenhoffer as you know died because he refused to go along with such. It seems so did your Founder.

Even if no one else will condemn the hatred exhibited in this forum, I will.
BTW, Hitler formed his own Nazi Christian Church.

Originally posted by Taoman
Nor that simple:

"The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”

[Adolph Hitler, Speech, ...[text shortened]... er as you know died because he refused to go along with such. It seems so did your Founder.

Haven't you ever heard that Adolf Hitler was a deceiver? You do know what that means don't you? You can only know such deceivers by their actions.

The Instructor

Originally posted by Taoman
I have made a formal complaint to the site as to the nature of these posts. I for one am going to withdraw my patronage of RHP if they are not restricted as per the forum guidelines. It is inflammatory (probably intentionally) idiotic and wrong particularly in the Spirituality Forum. Those who just sit on their hands while this is happening are without honor. ...[text shortened]... al error to condemn all of Islam on the basis of the action of radical Islamists. It is hatred.

What posts are you talking about Taoman -
Edit - OK I've seen RJHinds stuff now so I can see where you are coming from in that respect.

Inciting hated should not be tolerated under any circumstances, but open debate and opinion about controversies is what keeps not only these forums active but the spirit of free speech alive in a democratic society.

Originally posted by Taoman
Nor that simple:

"The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”

[Adolph Hitler, Speech, ...[text shortened]... er as you know died because he refused to go along with such. It seems so did your Founder.

Hitler was a German, are you saying all Germans are evil?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Islam is just an evil distortion of Judaism and Christianity. So I agree with johnnylogwoody that Islam should be abolished. Cut out the cancer while we are still alive.

The Instructor

Give it a rest Hinds, you're part of the problem not part of the solution.

Originally posted by Taoman
Radical terrorism is a dangerous disease of the mind and of any religion. Moderates of all religions need to stand together against it.

No you miss the point again and again which is everyone should stand against radical terrorism and cold blooded murder and if a group or sect will not openly do so then they should come under the law or leave the country. It is not enough to keep wittering on about moderate groups - they are not the issue, the religious core and senior leadership should be actively standing against these atrocities, rooting out the individuals concerned and handing them over to the authorities.