"And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD [b]smote all the firstborn
in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a grea ...[text shortened]... "
Here again, you are not understanding what was required to properly handle the Ark.[/b]But this is all just special pleading ... indeed if the bible had said something along the lines of:
"And that they did not look upon the LORD, all the blind of Jericho were smote with smallpox, and their children, and their wives for 700 years: and the deaf could not sleep through their screams, and the paralysed were restless; and the world would never forget His vengeance*, for the LORD spake that none shall turn from His gaze."
You'd have said something along the lines of ... "Aha! but you forgot how they committed an unthinkable blasphemy by turning away from their creator!!"
As for your rebuttals, in the first he didn't have to kill all the children did he!? and he could have intervened on the slavery before it got to the point where he would start thinking about going on a killing spree. As for the second - this is a variant of the speculative response you'd make above.
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* and of course on another note, people would have used that passage to fulfil a couple of prophesies too
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Originally posted by Agerg But this is all just special pleading ... indeed if the bible had said something along the lines of:
[quote]"And that they did not look upon the LORD, all the blind of Jericho were smote with smallpox, and their children, and their wives for 700 years: and the deaf could not sleep through their screams, and the paralysed were restless; and the world would n ...[text shortened]... course on another note, people would have used that passage to fulfil a couple of prophesies too
"And that they did not look upon the LORD, all the blind of Jericho were smote with smallpox, and their children, and their wives for 700 years: and the deaf could not sleep through their screams of agony, and the paralysed were restless; and the world would never forget this anguish*, for the LORD spake that none shall turn from his gaze."
Originally posted by checkbaiter [b] "And that they did not look upon the LORD, all the blind of Jericho were smote with smallpox, and their children, and their wives for 700 years: and the deaf could not sleep through their screams of agony, and the paralysed were restless; and the world would never forget this anguish*, for the LORD spake that none shall turn from his gaze."
Where is this in the bible?[/b]
A re-read of the post to which yours here is a response, and a bit of thinking time should illuminate where in the Bible you might find that passage ... yes I have finished tweaking it.
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Originally posted by Agerg A re-read of the post to which yours here is a response, and a bit of thinking time should illuminate where in the Bible you might find that passage ... yes I have finished tweaking it.
Sorry, I don't have time to play games...this is not bible, and especially if you "tweaked" it..
Ok, first up [b]"slaughtering". Does the Bible say the following:
"And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh ...[text shortened]... because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter."
Originally posted by josephw I'm not challenging you Agerg.
What kind of a God is it that isn't perfect?
A simple question. Can you answer it?
The Greeks and Romans had a whole pantheon of them.
And you can include yours of course, a perfect god would
not show jealousy or anger or torture his own son or
blame people for the sins of their forbears or .............
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Originally posted by Agerg Clue: I said (and this was not edited) ...
But this is all just special pleading ... indeed [b]if the bible had said something along the lines of
...[/b]
I understand, but I think, you think, this is how God is represented in the bible.
This is how you view God.
If only you knew how good and kind he really is.
All your views and understanding of his character are utterly flawed.
Originally posted by josephw I'm not challenging you Agerg.
What kind of a God is it that isn't perfect?
A simple question. Can you answer it?
I'll take it that I totally nailed the slaughtering point ... booyah! ... Shall I demonstrate torturing now!? 🙂
As for your simple question, wolfgang59 beat me to it but a god that isn't perfect would be *your* "God". Furthermore, I see no reason why a god *should* be perfect.
Originally posted by checkbaiter Never heard of it...
Are you seriously saying you have never heard of "Wuthering Heights"? That is quite breathtaking, I mean really really astounding. It's one of the great English Novels, one can make an argument for the greatest. My gast is utterly flabberred; this book was referenced by Camus in the Rebel, it's the title of a song by Kate Bush; how can you not have heard of Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë?
Originally posted by DeepThought Are you seriously saying you have never heard of "Wuthering Heights"? That is quite breathtaking, I mean really really astounding. It's one of the great English Novels, one can make an argument for the greatest. My gast is utterly flabberred; this book was referenced by Camus in the Rebel, it's the title of a song by Kate Bush; how can you not have heard of Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë?
Also considering Wuthering Heights has been made into movies and plays......
What do you think of Heathcliff? Was he justified in his revenge?
Originally posted by sonhouse Also considering Wuthering Heights has been made into movies and plays......
What do you think of Heathcliff? Was he justified in his revenge?
Not really, I think that's part of the point of the book. He goes for this revenge, driven by jealousy, and destroys himself and everyone around him.
Who is more evil?
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