07 Dec '15 02:44>
From a Biblical point of view, who was the first Christian?
Originally posted by whodeyMost of the answers I see are reasonable.
From a Biblical point of view, who was the first Christian?
" And when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. And it happened with them that for a whole year they were gathered in the church and taught a considerable number and that the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch."
"And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His side. The disciples therefore rejoiced at seeing the Lord.
Then Jesus said to them again, Peace be with you; as the Father sent Me, I also send you. And when He had said this, He breathed into them and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit." (John 20:20-22)
Originally posted by whodeyIf you broaden the definition enough it would be Adam. The coming of Christ to save the world was preached to all of the patriarchs of old. They believed in the arrival of Christ although they did not live to see it.
Let me rephrase, I'm talking about the first person to believe that Jesus had come into the world to save the world.
Don't get hung up on when the term "Christian" came about.
Originally posted by checkbaiterIm pretty sure that there is no such thing in the Bible as "permanently filled with holy spirit". If there is please provide a reference.
You would have to define "Christian" ... a follower of Jesus with holy spirit upon them or a "born again" Christian permanently filled with holy spirit in them.
Originally posted by Rajk999How long did Jesus say the Spirit of truth, "the another Comforter" would be with the disciples ?
Im pretty sure that there is no such thing in the Bible as "permanently filled with holy spirit". If there is please provide a reference.
" And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Comforter, that He may be with you forever." (John 14:15)
" ... that He may be with you FOREVER."
Originally posted by sonshipThe Comforter being with the disciples or the church as a whole and forever, is a completely different matter to an individual disciple being filled with the holy spirit permanently.
How long did Jesus say the Spirit of truth, [b]"the another Comforter" would be with the disciples ?[/b]
Originally posted by Rajk999
The Comforter being with the disciples or the church as a whole and forever, is a completely different matter to an individual disciple being filled with the holy spirit permanently.
"Even the Spirit of reality whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him.;
But you know Him, because He abides with you and shall be in you." (John 14:17)
Many professed followers and partakers of the Holy Spirit can and do/did fall away.
Thereafter they are not partakers of the Holy Spirit.
No passage in the Bible speaks of anyone being permanently filled with the Holy Spirit. God gives and withdraws as he pleases.
Originally posted by sonshipDo you believe that the murderer Robert Louis Dear who is a born again Christian and who is saved eternally [according to you and him] has the Holy Spirit?The Comforter being with the disciples or the church as a whole and forever, is a completely different matter to an individual disciple being filled with the holy spirit permanently.
You make Jesus a liar then. He tells the twelve that the Comforter will be with them forever. But what you say He really meant was that with each of them in ...[text shortened]... /b] passage saying that God will or did cause a withdrawing of the Holy Spirit from a Christian.
Originally posted by whodeyI'm not sure how you are defining Christian, but I'll say the first was the thief on the cross
From a Biblical point of view, who was the first Christian?