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Adam? Eve? Did Eve go to heaven? What about the ones that Cain married? Who were apparently not in the garden of eden?
Originally posted by sonhousenow my wife is stepping in with her two cents...
So A&E never made it? So they went to hell?
Ah, my wife says Abel because he was the first to die.
Originally posted by Big MacBut I thought various characters flew up into heaven in the old testament.
now my wife is stepping in with her two cents...
heaven was not available until jesus died. therefore, all the believers before jesus went at the same time from abraham's bosom or sheol or wherever to heaven.
per my wife. smartest lady i know. 😉
Originally posted by twhiteheaddoes it mention them specifically going to heaven?
But I thought various characters flew up into heaven in the old testament.
Originally posted by Big MacSo why would God reward a famous character by sending him to the sky?
does it mention them specifically going to heaven?
if it does, the hebrew word is usually plural, e.g. heavens, which does refer to the sky. their ultimate destination is not mentioned, if i recall. i can't look it up right now, but i will.
Originally posted by twhiteheadi'm just saying that it doesn't list his "final destination."
So why would God reward a famous character by sending him to the sky?
Originally posted by Big MacAnd what's happened to that first person who went to heaven. Has he aged? Or has he remained the same as at the time of his death? If that guy decided to donate his heart before he died, and then his heart really got harvested when he died, will he arrive in heaven without a heart?
i'm just saying that it doesn't list his "final destination."
the afterlife is very murky in the ot.
there are places such as abraham's bosom, sheol, the pit, etc. it would take some study and research to figure out the language and implications.
Originally posted by ckoh1965good questions. i don't know all the answers.
And what's happened to that first person who went to heaven. Has he aged? Or has he remained the same as at the time of his death? If that guy decided to donate his heart before he died, and then his heart really got harvested when he died, will he arrive in heaven without a heart?
But how many people have gone to heaven after that? Between heaven and he ...[text shortened]... illion people are on the way there. Not to mention that the number is increasing exponentially.
Originally posted by ckoh19656 billion? Out of all the humans who have lived, try more like a TRILLION. You thought heaven was overcrowded? Try living with a trillion self righteous asssholes.
And what's happened to that first person who went to heaven. Has he aged? Or has he remained the same as at the time of his death? If that guy decided to donate his heart before he died, and then his heart really got harvested when he died, will he arrive in heaven without a heart?
But how many people have gone to heaven after that? Between heaven and he ...[text shortened]... illion people are on the way there. Not to mention that the number is increasing exponentially.
Originally posted by sonhousei try not to be too self-righteous. as for the other charge, perhaps you could bring specific charges to me that could help me deal with my "assholiness?"
6 billion? Out of all the humans who have lived, try more like a TRILLION. You thought heaven was overcrowded? Try living with a trillion self righteous asssholes.
Originally posted by Big MacGot egg on your face? That was a Yolk son, Get it, yolk......
i try not to be too self-righteous. as for the other charge, perhaps you could bring specific charges to me that could help me deal with my "assholiness?"
side note: could not arrogance in one's own knowledge (be it religious or scientific) not easly lead to self-righteousness?
Originally posted by twhiteheadPretending to admit of a literal interpretation of events listed in the
But I thought various characters flew up into heaven in the old testament.