Whose Heaven?

Originally posted by Big Mac
but how and why is he our only hope for salvation?

whoever can give us hope, believe in that. it doesn't matter how you get there, just get there!

Personally, i still believe heaven is within us. it's like hiding the thimble. mother puts it right in front of us (obvious) and asks us to go look for it😕 now... here we go! 😵 ...😵...😴...wait until we get back to mother! the thimble we were looking for was there all along.😕 we're still figuring it out

Originally posted by dragonstarr369
i don't think that you are a n angel, yet my sense of relity can't confirm or deny that. yet if god were to choose someone, he'd choose you over me because your faith in Him is stronger than mine.
i still dont believe religion. jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within us. i must look withn me. pain and separation is an illusion if we were in divi ...[text shortened]... r we die. some are are enjoying heaven on earth or closer than i would waiting to die for it.

Where DO you get this "i'm not an angel" vrap? I never said I was such a thing. We are above the angels.

Originally posted by dragonstarr369
that's exactly what i mean! who's to say that your religion is right and all others are wrong? i'm beginning to think that all religon is wrong. people say that heaven is a state of mind, and not a place you go. if you have heaven in your heart, you're already in heaven. that state of bliss is an empirical experience that transcend raace creed color it's all personality worship!

i think becoming agnostic is the righteous way to be.

Hitler used Darwinism to control the world.

The Bible teaches us that "God is love." And if you don't believe it, He'll send you to Hell for an eternity!!! (I know that doesn't make any sense, but there are plausible readings of the Holy Bible that simultaneously teach both of those things.)

Originally posted by dragonstarr369
now what are you, an angel? you can't be a messenger, and if you were one, you can't speak for the masses, just those who believe in your god!

He answered you question and you have to be rude to him?

God commands his redeemed to be Ambassadors.

Originally posted by dragonstarr369
i don't think that you are a n angel, yet my sense of relity can't confirm or deny that. yet if god were to choose someone, he'd choose you over me because your faith in Him is stronger than mine.
i still dont believe religion. jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within us. i must look withn me. pain and separation is an illusion if we were in divi ...[text shortened]... r we die. some are are enjoying heaven on earth or closer than i would waiting to die for it.

This is why God chose him over you

For he says to Moses,
"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."

Originally posted by RBHILL
Hitler used Darwinism to control the world.

Would you care to back up that statement?
1. What is 'Darwinism'?
2. Did Hitler ever control the world?
3. What did he need his army for?

Originally posted by gaychessplayer
The Bible teaches us that "God is love." And if you don't believe it, He'll send you to Hell for an eternity!!! (I know that doesn't make any sense, but there are plausible readings of the Holy Bible that simultaneously teach both of those things.)

So you're gay and you're here to teach us what real love is?

What's that ? Is it to seek romance, marriage, and pretended procreation with someone of the same sex?

With "love" like that who needs hell?

Originally posted by jaywill
....and pretended procreation ....

You think that procreation is all that sex is good for? 🙁

Do you believe that sex after menopause is a sin?

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Where DO you get this "i'm not an angel" vrap? I never said I was such a thing. We are above the angels.

are you a god, i wouldn't be in american society, or ANY human society if you were.or...would you?😕

Originally posted by dragonstarr369
are you a god, i wouldn't be in american society, or ANY human society if you were.or...would you?😕

I am not a god, and the rest of your post is unintelligible.

Originally posted by twhitehead
You think that procreation is all that sex is good for? 🙁

Do you believe that sex after menopause is a sin?

Nope, in neither case. Neither did I state that.

Do you think that jumping to conclusions to make strawman arguments is effective?

Originally posted by jaywill
So you're gay and you're here to teach us what real love is?

What's that ? Is it to seek romance, marriage, and pretended procreation with someone of the same sex?

With "love" like that who needs hell?

I would never claim to know exactly what "real" love is, but it's pretty safe to say that it does not involve torturing people for an eternity.

I'll surmise that you've never experienced gay sex, but that doesn't seem to stop you from being an expert on the subject. Curious, indeed...

Originally posted by gaychessplayer
I would never claim to know exactly what "real" love is, but it's pretty safe to say that it [b]does not involve torturing people for an eternity.

I'll surmise that you've never experienced gay sex, but that doesn't seem to stop you from being an expert on the subject. Curious, indeed...[/b]

God doesn't torture the people. That would be Satan.
But it is a persons choice to accept or reject the gift of Salvation, which is in Christ.

Originally posted by jaywill
Nope, in neither case. Neither did I state that.

Do you think that jumping to conclusions to make strawman arguments is effective?

I did not jump to conclusions. I made the obvious deduction from you statement and to be fair, asked you whether or not I was right.

Now if my deduction was wrong, then can you explain why you would think that someone would "pretend procreation with someone of the same sex"?