Why Adam's Rib Became Eve

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Survival.

...of the fittest?

Justification for the destruction of whatever obstacle interferes with human advancement, be it animal, mineral or vegetable.

Creation just isn't that great a stretch of the imagination. Creation is the expression of the purest form of logic.

Then, the question was raised, "hath God said"?

Anti-logic. Anti-Logos.

@secondson said
You need to keep abreast with developing science ghostly fellow.

They're now saying that the universe may be infinite. The inference being that the science of evolution doesn't fit with an infinite universe.

Don't ask me how that is.

I have been advocating for an infinite universe for quite some time now.

Origin and evolution however are two separate conversations.

@secondson said
...of the fittest?

Justification for the destruction of whatever obstacle interferes with human advancement, be it animal, mineral or vegetable.

Creation just isn't that great a stretch of the imagination. Creation is the expression of the purest form of logic.

Then, the question was raised, "hath God said"?

Anti-logic. Anti-Logos.

Adapt and survive. Justification isn't required.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I have been advocating for an infinite universe for quite some time now.

Origin and evolution however are two separate conversations.

Apparently, from what I've heard, the science of evolution is incompatible with an infinite universe. If so, then origin cancels evolution.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Adapt and survive. Justification isn't required.

Adaptation and survival are principles of justification for evolutionary processes.

Kill or be killed.

-Removed-

Give it up divegeester. You're nowhere near sonship's league.

If you didn't lack knowledge and understanding you wouldn't have to ask what sonship is "on about".

@secondson said
Apparently, from what I've heard, the science of evolution is incompatible with an infinite universe. If so, then origin cancels evolution.

I don't see it that way. Due to our mutual lack of infinity, we will never be able to comprehend the infinite. We can however begin to understand our own evolution via fossils and the like. Empirical knowledge.

@secondson said
Adaptation and survival are principles of justification for evolutionary processes.

Kill or be killed.

Can you explain what you mean exactly in your use of justification? What are we justifying to?

Adaptation and survival are simply part of the evolutionary processes.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I don't see it that way. Due to our mutual lack of infinity, we will never be able to comprehend the infinite. We can however begin to understand our own evolution via fossils and the like. Empirical knowledge.

"Due to our mutual lack of infinity, we will never be able to comprehend the infinite."

That sentence defies logic. Yes, we will never be able to comprehend the infinite, but not because of our mutual lack of infinity, whatever that means.

Empiricism relies on time does it not? Empirical knowledge is acquired over time, and time exists in a finite dimension. Infinity exists outside the realm of the finite dimension in which empirical knowledge is acquired.

Therefore, evolution, and the knowledge of it, as acquired by empiricism, is rendered illogical in an infinite universe.

@secondson said
"Due to our mutual lack of infinity, we will never be able to comprehend the infinite."

That sentence defies logic. Yes, we will never be able to comprehend the infinite, but not because of our mutual lack of infinity, whatever that means.

Empiricism relies on time does it not? Empirical knowledge is acquired over time, and time exists in a finite dimension. In ...[text shortened]... , and the knowledge of it, as acquired by empiricism, is rendered illogical in an infinite universe.

The finite can never comprehend the infinite.

The life of the Earth is limited and hence measurable by time. The universe is not.

(Or if you prefer. Can you comprehend God? Probably not. Can you comprehend His creation? )

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Can you explain what you mean exactly in your use of justification? What are we justifying to?

Adaptation and survival are simply part of the evolutionary processes.

Justification in this sense: the 'actions' of adaptation and survival are justified within the context of the evolutionary model because those actions, of which the terms 'adaptation' and 'survival' refer to, are necessary for the evolutionary model to be veracious.

It's like saying the goal(survival) justifies the means(actions), superseding higher law.

@FMF

"Why" is a question for religionists.

You just attempted to explain the why of something. So you're a religionist I guess.

@secondson said
Justification in this sense: the 'actions' of adaptation and survival are justified within the context of the evolutionary model because those actions, of which the terms 'adaptation' and 'survival' refer to, are necessary for the evolutionary model to be veracious.

It's like saying the goal(survival) justifies the means(actions), superseding higher law.

As I said, adaptation and survival are simply part of the evolutionary processes. I don't think you need to add the word justification.

There is no higher law. Things are what they are.

@divegeester

Jesus came out of the Godhead as the word
The ground came out of Jesus in creation
Adam came out of the ground of creation
Eve came out of Adam
Cain came out of Eve, as did the rest of mankind

Are you feeling ok?

What are you on about?

Gaslighting will get you nowhere.
Just wildly throwing dust up into the air?
Why so wild a scattering of different unrelated thoughts?