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Originally posted by FMFI am permitted to defend myself and my family, I am not permitted to take life. taking action does not necessitate violence as you have erroneously assumed and its known that violence leads to more bloodshed.
And you would not have raised a hand in violence to stop anyone from lynching black people back in the day, and you would not have raised a hand in violence to stop the lynch mob from kidnapping black people you'd given sanctuary to in order to go and lynch them, and you wouldn't have got involved in any political efforts to change the circumstances that made the lynchings possible, right?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo the lives of your wife and family are, in fact, not sacrosanct to you. You would choose to see them die rather than prevent their deaths with lethal action, right?
I am permitted to defend myself and my family, I am not permitted to take life.
Originally posted by FMFthe people who perpetrated and were witnesses to lynchings were prejudiced, ignorant and bigoted and found a justification for violence. Divesgeeter has also displayed ignorance, prejudice and bigotry and can also easily find a justification for violence. you will tell me in what aspect he is any different?
What does divegeester's criticism of the JW organisation have to do with people lynching black people?
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Originally posted by FMFAll life is sacrosanct, even that of those bent on violence, like you and divesgeester by way of example.
So the lives of your wife and family are, in fact, not sacrosanct to you. You would choose to see them die rather than prevent their deaths with lethal action, right?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo what's happened here is you've got bent out of shape by some criticism of the group you're a member of, and you are now lashing out by claiming that divegeester is ignorant, prejudiced, bigoted and hateful enough to hang black people from trees?
the people who perpetrated and were witnesses to lynchings were prejudiced, ignorant and bigoted and found a justification for violence. Divesgeeter has also displayed ignorance, prejudice and bigotry and can also easily find a justification for violence. you will tell me in what aspect he is any different?
-Removed-I don't believe not believing in hell is enough to get someone tossed into hell. I do believe anyone teaching others there is no hell gives tacit approval for not obeying God due to a lack of consequences, and can lead to behavior that gets someone tossed into hell. For a Christian to ignore anything Jesus has said because it doesn't suit them is a dangerous game to play.
But let me make this clear, you telling me what RJ claims to have said carries very little weight with me. Both you and FMF have misrepresented many of my past statements and claimed I've said things I never said. You have both proven to be a couple of lying troublemakers working only to keep your contrived conflicts alive at these threads... if you think this is your ticket into heaven because it's what God wants you to do, then you are sadly mistaken.
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Originally posted by FMFThere is ample evidence of his ignorance, his prejudice and bigotry, he himself has stated that he can easily find a justification for violence. You have failed to sate despite being asked both to provide evidence that he would have some kind of moral imperative to make him refrain from such acts had he been party to that epoch and system, or to state in what way his prejudice, ignorance and justification for the use of violence is in anyway different?
So what's happened here is you've got bent out of shape by some criticism of the group you're a member of, and you are now lashing out by claiming that divegeester is ignorant, prejudiced, bigoted and hateful enough to hang black people from trees?
Perhaps you can let us know when you can or we may be forced to acknowledge that its because you are bent out of shape that you cannot.