Originally posted by moonbusAhh, but GB doesn't discuss Pascal's Wager. He just posts it over and over again as if
I would be quite happy to discuss Pascal's wager, but it deserves a thread unto itself.
repeated viewings will make it into a better argument.
The fact that we have repeatedly pointed out that it's a completely logically invalid argument
at length and in detail does nothing whatsoever to stop him using it again five minutes later.
Then of course GB doesn't discuss anything at all.
I have long suspected that he is in fact a software bot programmed to post passive-aggressive
bumper-sticker slogans... which, true or not, is an accurate representation of his posting on
this site.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyOh good, another bumper sticker quote from the God Botherer Bot.
“Atheism turns out to be too simple.
If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning...”
―C.S. Lewis
Tell me in your own words what part of "atheism isn't a belief system" you don't understand?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
'There's a hole in the heart of man in the shape of God.
If I believe in the Risen Christ and it's just an artful falsehood, there is nothing to lose.
If true, then I have everything to gain.' -Pascal (1623-1662)
There's a hole in the heart of man in the shape of God.
Prove it.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI have looked up your insult of the week and find no meaning even remotely relevant.
You are a Wendy, incontrovertible evidence!
Making your post meaningless as well as idiotic.
But then you have always lacked any sort of content to back up your lies and abhorrent opinions.
Originally posted by googlefudgeI believe I made some earlier remark about Robbie living in a Wendy House. He appears to have absorbed this insult, misunderstood it and then rebounded it back at yourself in a way that only Robbie could..
I have looked up your insult of the week and find no meaning even remotely relevant.
Making your post meaningless as well as idiotic.
But then you have always lacked any sort of content to back up your lies and abhorrent opinions.
“Atheism is the default position in any scientific inquiry, just as a-quarkism or a-neutrinoism was. That is, any entity has to earn its admission into a scientific account either via direct evidence for its existence or because it plays some fundamental explanatory role. Before the theoretical need for neutrinos was appreciated (to preserve the conservation of energy) and then later experimental detection was made, they were not part of the accepted physical account of the world. To say physicists in 1900 were 'agnostic' about neutrinos sounds wrong: they just did not believe there were such things.
As yet, there is no direct experimental evidence of a deity, and in order for the postulation of a deity to play an explanatory role there would have to be a lot of detail about how it would act. If, as you have suggested, we are not “good judges of how the deity would behave,” then such an unknown and unpredictable deity cannot provide good explanatory grounds for any phenomenon. The problem with the 'minimal view' is that in trying to be as vague as possible about the nature and motivation of the deity, the hypothesis loses any explanatory force, and so cannot be admitted on scientific grounds. Of course, as the example of quarks and neutrinos shows, scientific accounts change in response to new data and new theory. The default position can be overcome.”
― Tim Maudlin
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeMy illustrious friend (and how I hesitate to use the term due to all the injustices and injuries you have done me!) a Wendy is a well known Glaswegian colloquial term for an impuissant pansy, a wuss, a wooster, a weak and spindly sapling, a wallflower, a shrinking violet, etc etc See how I enrich you with these cultural gems!
I believe I made some earlier remark about Robbie living in a Wendy House. He appears to have absorbed this insult, misunderstood it and then rebounded it back at yourself in a way that only Robbie could..
Originally posted by robbie carrobieLet us pursue your metaphor of the ripples on the surface of the water, shall we? The ripples you caused break the light into jagged fragments, confusing and disjointing the image of the clear sky which had been reflected there before. Confused and disjointed images trouble the mind, giving it no peace. Cease disturbing the waters and you will see the reality as it is, intact and whole, freed from jagged, disjointed, confused, and dogmatic fragments.
LOL clearly you need some ASMR, you too inflexible man! 😵
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOk, hands up everybody here who thinks I am a 'shrinking violet'...
My illustrious friend (and how I hesitate to use the term due to all the injustices and injuries you have done me!) a Wendy is a well known Glaswegian colloquial term for an impuissant pansy, a wuss, a wooster, a weak and spindly sapling, a wallflower, a shrinking violet, etc etc See how I enrich you with these cultural gems!
Anybody here think I back away from a challenge, or am weak, or am a wallflower, or think
that this in any way applies to me...
See, RC, by your own definition of the term, it doesn't apply to me.
In fact I would hazard a guess that most people here asked to describe me would use terms that
are the exact opposite of those in your definition.
And it certainly has no barring on or relation to the post to which you responded.
In fact it's even less applicable than the meanings I found for the term in common use.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou're such a Wendy....
My illustrious friend (and how I hesitate to use the term due to all the injustices and injuries you have done me!) a Wendy is a well known Glaswegian colloquial term for an impuissant pansy, a wuss, a wooster, a weak and spindly sapling, a wallflower, a shrinking violet, etc etc See how I enrich you with these cultural gems!
Originally posted by googlefudgeIt is fairly demonstrable that Pascal's Wager is bollocks.
Ahh, but GB doesn't discuss Pascal's Wager. He just posts it over and over again as if
repeated viewings will make it into a better argument.
The fact that we have repeatedly pointed out that it's a completely logically invalid argument
at length and in detail does nothing whatsoever to stop him using it again five minutes later.
Then of course ...[text shortened]... cker slogans... which, true or not, is an accurate representation of his posting on
this site.
I mean, to some, it looks okay on the outside, but looking at it with the light of reason, even a theist can reject it as absolute bollocks.
Originally posted by moonbusDaVinci stated that its a wretched pupil that does not surpass his master, fortunately for me, thats not the case. Master it is true that one needs a calm environment upon which to reflect and when such an environment is disturbed we can get a jagged and distorted reflection but the illustration was intended not to convey a state of tranquillity but one of implication.
Let us pursue your metaphor of the ripples on the surface of the water, shall we? The ripples you caused break the light into jagged fragments, confusing and disjointing the image of the clear sky which had been reflected there before. Confused and disjointed images trouble the mind, giving it no peace. Cease disturbing the waters and you will see the reality as it is, intact and whole, freed from jagged, disjointed, confused, and dogmatic fragments.
Indulge me a little. When one picks up the king pawn and gently places it to the e4 square it has implications that reverberate around the entire chess board. Naturally the far reaching implications of this are not immediately discernible at first but as the march of logic progresses it will become manifest, will it not. Now when one takes a stance, there is God/there is no God it is the same as placing the King pawn on the e4 square, it has implications, far reaching implications that may or may not be readily discernible and this is the point, the perfect symmetry and balance of the chessboard has been disturbed as force is set in motion.
Man I love a good chess illustration.
Originally posted by googlefudgeI don't think you're a 'shrinking violet'. Anyone who claims this is an idiot.
Ok, hands up everybody here who thinks I am a 'shrinking violet'...
Anybody here think I back away from a challenge, or am weak, or am a wallflower, or think
that this in any way applies to me...
See, RC, by your own definition of the term, it doesn't apply to me.
In fact I would hazard a guess that most people here asked to describe me would u ...[text shortened]... nded.
In fact it's even less applicable than the meanings I found for the term in common use.
I just think you're wrong. And that's a different thing entirely.