Originally posted by robbie carrobieI tell you what. Go ask a Jew about that.
Christ himself states of the Jews as a collective and I quote, '"Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit." - Matthew 21:43
The law was done away with in practice or have you never read, 'having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and ...[text shortened]... will write it. And I will become their God, and they will become my people.” Jeremiah 31:330-33
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAs I've said before, maybe you should be "pruned". You're not helping anyone out here with your "fringe" religion. It's certainly shuttered *your* eyes. Don't compound the problem.
Its a question designed to foment thought and discussion and clearly you are out of your depth, I suggest swimming back to the shallow pool with the kiddies and those that need milk!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOk, let's see: Jew, converted Roman, Jew.
I dont need to ask a Jew about it, I have the words of Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul and the prophet Jeremiah.
As I said, ask a Jew about it. You can't have even a working knowledge of what Christianity is about without knowing what came before. You trash it, and them, at your own peril.
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Originally posted by Suzianneand yet I appear to be far more knowledgeable than you in Biblical matters, fully conversant with scripture and its application, have a good grasp of my own faith and a handle on the ideas behind others even though I do not profess them myself while you seem intent simply to blow the same whistle day in and day out, 'you're this and you're that'.
As I've said before, maybe you should be "pruned". You're not helping anyone out here with your "fringe" religion. It's certainly shuttered *your* eyes. Don't compound the problem.
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Originally posted by SuzianneYour text is is nothing but a kind of meaningless caustic diatribe. Lets ask you a simple question, the central tenet of the teaching of Jesus Christ while he taught and preached on the earth was, 'the Kingdom of God', what is it?
Ok, let's see: Jew, converted Roman, Jew.
As I said, ask a Jew about it. You can't have even a working knowledge of what Christianity is about without knowing what came before. You trash it, and them, at your own peril.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo I should take your answer as meaning "not at all," then?
yes if it had any bearing on my perception of reality and once again its absurd to think otherwise. your attempt to reduce the idea to absurdity has failed.
Then can you imagine how not believing in other baseless hypotheses concerning supernatural beings will also have no effect on morality/values/etc.?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraHow you managed to turn 'yes if it had any bearing on my perception of reality ', into,'not at all', is truly amazing, do you also do card tricks?
So I should take your answer as meaning "not at all," then?
Then can you imagine how not believing in other baseless hypotheses concerning supernatural beings will also have no effect on morality/values/etc.?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAh, so you're one of those Christians [sic] who pick out the cherries (embedded between occasional quotes from the OT) and leave the yucky bits. Sure, I'm cool with that. I'll take Song of Songs (one of the great erotic love poems of all time), and Ecclesiastes (I love how the Byrds set it to music, "To everything, there is a season!" real toe-tapping stuff). Drop all the yucky stuff, outright cruelty, and patent nonsense though --you know, the witch burning, stoning of adulteresses, killing Job's family to prove a boast to the devil, the leftover bronze-age mythical twaddle about a guy who put all extant species into a boat and repopulated the entire planet after a flood, the unsubstantiated hearsay and rumors of supposed miracles, the sexist-patriarchalism, the scare-stories for frightening children into obedience, ... shucks, that leaves Songs of Songs and Eccles.
... In fact the Law was never intended to be a permanent feature and was nothing more than a temporary measure, 'a tutor' as Paul terms it, 'leading towards the Christ'.
... [embedded in quotes from the OT]
Originally posted by twhiteheadCan we please at least agree that having a screw loose does not necessarily imply having a wing off? For Catholics, anyway.
All afairyists have a fairy shaped hole in their hearts.
And rocks are afairyists ... in case you were wondering.
And Catholics that are missing a wing are only half fairies.
And if you believed in the tooth fairy, you would know that babies don't really matter until they grow teeth, so your afairyism affects your stance on abortion.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat bearing on your perception of reality does not believing in those rabid dogs ruling the Universe have for you, would you say?
How you managed to turn 'yes if it had any bearing on my perception of reality ', into,'not at all', is truly amazing, do you also do card tricks?
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Originally posted by KazetNagorradifficult to say because it depends on the parameters. I would also like to point out that contrary to your assertion dogs ruling the universe is not my personal perspective but you keep conjuring away if it makes you happy.
What bearing on your perception of reality does not believing in those rabid dogs ruling the Universe have for you, would you say?
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Originally posted by moonbusYou are projecting your ignorance. I accept that 'all scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving and setting things straight so that the man of God may be fully competent , completely equipped for every good work' - 2 Timothy 3:16,17
Ah, so you're one of those Christians [sic] who pick out the cherries (embedded between occasional quotes from the OT) and leave the yucky bits. Sure, I'm cool with that. I'll take [b]Song of Songs (one of the great erotic love poems of all time), and Ecclesiastes (I love how the Byrds set it to music, "To everything, there is a season!" real toe- ...[text shortened]... ries for frightening children into obedience, ... shucks, that leaves Songs of Songs and Eccles.[/b]
You are still failing to grasp how the Mosaic law relates to Christianity and as a direct consequence seem intent on making some rather absurd assertions on the basis of your ignorance.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo you don't know the parameters but it is affecting your perception of reality?
difficult to say because it depends on the parameters.
I would also like to point out that contrary to your assertion dogs ruling the universe is not my personal perspective but you keep conjuring away if it makes you happy.
I am fairly sure that dogs not ruling the universe is your personal perspective.