Originally posted by robbie carrobieSorry, preaching your bizarro doctrine doesn't work on me.
Your text is is nothing but a kind of meaningless caustic diatribe. Lets ask you a simple question, the central tenet of the teaching of Jesus Christ while he taught and preached on the earth was, 'the Kingdom of God', what is it?
Originally posted by googlefudgeI see you saying No. I see you being very careful with your words so that you can later come through with your 'logical lawnmower'.
Sigh.
No, and you know that.
Can't really see any difference between which way you want to say it.
The only reason you deny having any belief, in anything, is so you can then trash any, and every, belief system.
Originally posted by googlefudgeAtheism is the lack of belief in the existence of any gods.
I'm pretty sure that I/we have dealt with this several times in this thread already.
Atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of any gods.
An atheist is a [b]PERSON who lacks a belief in the existence of any gods.
Thus a baby [which qualifies as a person] is an atheist, and a rock [which does not
qualify as a person] is not an atheis ...[text shortened]... talking about whether such things are 'atheists'
or not is an utterly pointless waste of time.[/b]
I lack belief in santa claus, hence I believe that santa claus does not exist. A rock and a baby lack belief in God because they have no beliefs. They do not believe that God does not exist.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe very same could be said of you. You have a surprisingly thin grasp of Christianity, despite it supposedly being your religion of choice. Come back to the mainstream, you've been leaning on your own understanding (and what others with a similarly thin grasp have told you) for far too long. So long that you've accepted some truly bizarro ideas. It pleases God to have the prodigal son return, but not so much if he just prefers to stay lost.
You are projecting your ignorance. I accept that 'all scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving and setting things straight so that the man of God may be fully competent , completely equipped for every good work' - 2 Timothy 3:16,17
You are still failing to grasp how the Mosaic law relates to Christianity and as a d ...[text shortened]... consequence seem intent on making some rather absurd assertions on the basis of your ignorance.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkThis has been discussed at least 20 times before in other threads.
[b]Atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of any gods.
If I lack belief in santa claus does that not mean that I believe santa claus does not exist?[/b]
Lack of belief 'x' is not the same as belief that 'not-x.'
Originally posted by googlefudgeActually, none of it makes any difference to the "topic at hand", since that topic is "Why are you an atheist", and not "morality". The entire question of "morality" doesn't appear to have anything to do with the "topic at hand".
From the standpoint of assessing gods morality, it's irrelevant.
The god you claim to believe in is supposed to be the author/inspiration of the OT and
the NT.
Whether you think that the OT laws apply to Christians or not is irrelevant to an assessment
of whether they are moral, and by extension whether your god is moral or not.
It's also irre ...[text shortened]... to Christianity"] is an irrelevant
deflection as it makes no difference to the topic at hand.
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Originally posted by moonbusSo as an atheist you don't believe that God doesn't exist? Surely you either believe that he exists or you believe that he doesn't exist. So which is it?
This has been discussed at least 20 times before in other threads.
Lack of belief 'x' is not the same as belief that 'not-x.'
Originally posted by SuzianneDo you think characterizing your beliefs as "mainstream" ~ and leaning on your own understanding in order to do so ~ gives your beliefs more credence than robbie's in so far as they differ from yours?
Come back to the mainstream, you've been leaning on your own understanding (and what others with a similarly thin grasp have told you) for far too long.
Originally posted by avalanchethecatThis would seem to be closer to a 'default' position.
I don't share that belief. I wonder if there might be a creator.
Wondering is what has led man to discoveries and inventions to improve his lot.
But I do understand those who would close their minds to wonder or to any belief at all, especially on an internet discussion board where people are often asked to "put up or shut up".
Originally posted by SuzianneDo you think you and your fellow Christians on this internet discussion board that we are on exhibit more inclination to "wonder" than the non-Christians?
But I do understand those who would close their minds to wonder or to any belief at all, especially on an internet discussion board where people are often asked to "put up or shut up".
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThree strikes and you're out, pal.
1. I am egoless, I have no egocentricities, i have transcended the self.
2. Waist line could be skinnier, but its nothing to worry about at present.
3. Theistic misunderstandings? i have none, i understand everything about everything.
I often wonder what kind of small mind actually believes anything you say anymore.
Originally posted by moonbusWould you similarly say that "Lack of evidence FOR something is not the same as evidence AGAINST that same something"?
This has been discussed at least 20 times before in other threads.
Lack of belief 'x' is not the same as belief that 'not-x.'
The arguments seem similar to me.
Originally posted by FMFYou'll have to restate your question. It makes no sense in its present form. I'm not particularly concerned what you think of my, or anyone's, beliefs. It's not exactly a concern of mine what you find credible. It makes not a whit of difference to me. You might notice that I wasn't talking to you.
Do you think characterizing your beliefs as "mainstream" ~ and leaning on your own understanding in order to do so ~ gives your beliefs more credence than robbie's in so far as they differ from yours?
Originally posted by FMFNeither Christians nor non-Christians have a corner on the "wonderment" market. I understand your desire to land an "ideological blow" on me, but please don't let that keep you from making sense, as it has so far.
Do you think you and your fellow Christians on this internet discussion board that we are on exhibit more inclination to "wonder" than the non-Christians?
Originally posted by SuzianneYou constantly refer to the beliefs of some other Christians ~ with whom you have differences of opinion ~ as "fringe" or not being "mainstream" and other expressions to that effect. It strikes me as being merely a sort of argumentum ad populum and not much else.
You'll have to restate your question. It makes no sense in its present form. I'm not particularly concerned what you think of my, or anyone's, beliefs. It's not exactly a concern of mine what you find credible. It makes not a whit of difference to me. You might notice that I wasn't talking to you.