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    03 Nov '11 16:25
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    so are Texan longhorns, your point is?
    Atheists are more than 3-4% oof the population.
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    03 Nov '11 16:25
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    so are Texan longhorns, your point is?
    Atheists are more than 3-4% oof the population.
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    03 Nov '11 16:25
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    so are Texan longhorns, your point is?
    Atheists are more than 3-4% oof the population.
  4. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    03 Nov '11 16:30
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Australian politics is rotten to the core, correction, ALL politics is rotten to the core,
    why? self interest.
    Yes. Still I know plenty of European countries that present a more dignified front than Australia, even though Australia could be more like them, Australia is more like America...
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    03 Nov '11 16:32
    you alright joe?
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    03 Nov '11 16:521 edit
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    you alright joe?
    the poor thing, its conflicting reflections from his room full of mirrors that is causing the distortions, perhaps he's trying to make a herd of atheists, who can tell?
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    03 Nov '11 16:54
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    Yes. Still I know plenty of European countries that present a more dignified front than Australia, even though Australia could be more like them, Australia is more like America...
    I have yet to meet an Australian that i haven't liked although i am sure there must be
    some, we share a common goal, the humiliation of the Pomms, its enough for me!
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    03 Nov '11 16:55
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    the poor thing its reflections from his room full of mirrors that is causing the distortions, perhaps he's trying to make a herd of atheists, who can tell?
    He's right though.
    The more important question is will they stay atheists?
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    03 Nov '11 16:56
    Originally posted by 667joe
    Atheists are more than 3-4% oof the population.
    oof or hoof the population?
  10. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    03 Nov '11 16:57
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I have yet to meet an Australian that i haven't liked although i am sure there must be
    some, we share a common goal, the humiliation of the Pomms, its enough for me!
    Yeah I know.

    It's just the political system that's been hi-jacked.
    The OP is right. You've got to cross the t's and dot the i's to become president.
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    03 Nov '11 16:58
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    He's right though.
    The more important question is will they stay atheists?
    the more interesting, at least to me question is, what has driven them to atheism, for
    we cannot deny that we are inherently spiritual.
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    03 Nov '11 17:23
    Originally posted by 667joe
    Atheists are 10% to 15% of the US population.
    Depending on the God at issue, everyone in the U.S. is an atheist.
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    03 Nov '11 17:24
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    the more interesting, at least to me question is, what has driven them to atheism, for
    we cannot deny that we are inherently spiritual.
    Perhaps they see no connection between spirituality and theism. They may be deists, mystics, dirty Gaia-loving hippies, etc.
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    03 Nov '11 20:43
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    the more interesting, at least to me question is, what has driven them to atheism, for
    we cannot deny that we are inherently spiritual.
    Yes I would say something like we are inherintly spiritual but then you get ahteists like the beetle and mikelom, who are definately spiritual but do not profess to believe in a god.
    Even if we are inherently spiritual, we still start off with wiped memories and only start to form belief systems about God when we get some cognative powers happening,(both my kids asked about god when they were about 5 +1/2yrs old), and neither of them formed conclusions from the answers I gave but just went about incorporating that info into their forming belief system.
    So you could say that we all start out as atheists, although we are inherently spiritual.
    What do you think?
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    03 Nov '11 20:523 edits
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    the more interesting, at least to me question is, what has driven them to atheism, for
    we cannot deny that we are inherently spiritual.
    I don't think people are "driven" to atheism. I'd have assumed one doesn't wake up as a theist and decide that one day they're going to appease their over-bearing desire to become an atheist. It's simply a case that based on their take on the available evidence, it is no longer rational for themReveal Hidden Content
    (which given my phraseology here is assuming there exists some point where they have been theists either by choice or by early indoctrination)
    to entertain the notion(at the very least) that some specific god(s) exist(s). As such they identify themselves as atheists.

    In a similar sense I cannot, whilst in control of my faculties, support the proposition that I am The Gingerbread man; yet you'd hardly say I was driven towards that position.
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