Originally posted by robbie carrobieYes. Still I know plenty of European countries that present a more dignified front than Australia, even though Australia could be more like them, Australia is more like America...
Australian politics is rotten to the core, correction, ALL politics is rotten to the core,
why? self interest.
Originally posted by karoly aczelI have yet to meet an Australian that i haven't liked although i am sure there must be
Yes. Still I know plenty of European countries that present a more dignified front than Australia, even though Australia could be more like them, Australia is more like America...
some, we share a common goal, the humiliation of the Pomms, its enough for me!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYeah I know.
I have yet to meet an Australian that i haven't liked although i am sure there must be
some, we share a common goal, the humiliation of the Pomms, its enough for me!
It's just the political system that's been hi-jacked.
The OP is right. You've got to cross the t's and dot the i's to become president.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYes I would say something like we are inherintly spiritual but then you get ahteists like the beetle and mikelom, who are definately spiritual but do not profess to believe in a god.
the more interesting, at least to me question is, what has driven them to atheism, for
we cannot deny that we are inherently spiritual.
Even if we are inherently spiritual, we still start off with wiped memories and only start to form belief systems about God when we get some cognative powers happening,(both my kids asked about god when they were about 5 +1/2yrs old), and neither of them formed conclusions from the answers I gave but just went about incorporating that info into their forming belief system.
So you could say that we all start out as atheists, although we are inherently spiritual.
What do you think?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI don't think people are "driven" to atheism. I'd have assumed one doesn't wake up as a theist and decide that one day they're going to appease their over-bearing desire to become an atheist. It's simply a case that based on their take on the available evidence, it is no longer rational for them to entertain the notion(at the very least) that some specific god(s) exist(s). As such they identify themselves as atheists.
the more interesting, at least to me question is, what has driven them to atheism, for
we cannot deny that we are inherently spiritual.
In a similar sense I cannot, whilst in control of my faculties, support the proposition that I am The Gingerbread man; yet you'd hardly say I was driven towards that position.