22 Mar 05
Originally posted by geniusI don't know, but its really your problem.
now - i feel that i am quite a logical and well-educated person. i went to a good school (in the top 10 in scotland) and am studying maths and computer science at a good univeristy. so, why do you think i have faith?
When I went to university, there were lots of new things to try out and new people to meet and exchange ideas with. The sort of people you'd never have met before (even at the top ten schools in Scotland). Young, impressionable people try out new things - religion, politics, drugs, sex, beer, lectures. (Not at the same time, of course).
I had a friend who got into transendental meditation, and ending up teaching it, others who fried their brains with drugs, others who got very political.
Don't worry, you'll grow out of it.
22 Mar 05
Originally posted by geniusAre you asking because you have yet to formulate an opinion based on self-realisation, or because you are curious what others might think the reasons?
now - i feel that i am quite a logical and well-educated person. i went to a good school (in the top 10 in scotland) and am studying maths and computer science at a good univeristy. so, why do you think i have faith?
Assuming it is the second, I shall happily lay out my views on this, though you may not like them, I do not intend to cause offence by stating them.
I believe there are several possibilities for a person to have belief in the supernatural, or specifically in this case, god:
1)That the person has been habitualised through his early development by exposure to religious doctrine and as such has taken on beliefs to fit into his social/parental/cultural/educational environment.
2)That the person has yet to truly examine his own self intensely and judge his own reasons for a belief, being is it is a popular stance when brought up in a majority Christian environment.
3)That the person does not have the mental capacity to fully understand either the implications of his belief, or the case opposing such belief.
4)It is not entirely impossible that there is a genetic link to the potential for supernatural belief and as such, (for whatever reason it may be present) it may be predetermined that the person in question will find religion attractive. Which religion he/she may choose is another matter. I remain impartial to this awaiting further evidence, but do not dismiss the posibility.
5)That ther person has gone too long being unchallenged in his belief to ever allow it to falter, lest he risk a collapse of his ego and the factors which govern his persona.
6)That the person is in moral, emotional, social need and finds some of what religion offers to be a support in his life. Because religion has given them this support, they are unlikely to bite the hand that feeds them and as such will defend their position vehemently.
7)The person has not studied the processes of reasoning which might offer an alternative view.
Or any combination of two or more of the above points. There is, I suppose, also the possibility of a mental instability as well, but for the moment I will leave this aside.
I think it highly unlikely that a person chooses religion actively, with a clear, unbiased mind, no outside influence, after a comprehensive period of self-analysis and under their own speed. I would be interested to hear your reasons and whether you fill any of the criteria above.
22 Mar 05
you know it in your heart, then it all is , the education why does that bother you? we are taking from the tree of knowledge as eve did learning all the time. only when religion says the sun orbits us or we are the centre of universe, its for the truth to come out with science and as christians to learn,
22 Mar 05
Originally posted by stokerSo rather than answering the question you are denying that the question should be asked at all? Anyone that does not question is doing themselves a serious disservice and abandoning their intelligence entirely.
you know it in your heart, then it all is , the education why does that bother you? we are taking from the tree of knowledge as eve did learning all the time. only when religion says the sun orbits us or we are the centre of universe, its for the truth to come out with science and as christians to learn,
22 Mar 05
Originally posted by StarrmanI fit none of the above, Starr...I feel left out. 🙁
Are you asking because you have yet to formulate an opinion based on self-realisation, or because you are curious what others might think the reasons?
Assuming it is the second, I shall happily lay out my views on this, though you may not like them, I do not intend to cause offence by stating them.
I believe there are several possibilities for a perso ...[text shortened]... eed. I would be interested to hear your reasons and whether you fill any of the criteria above.
22 Mar 05
Originally posted by geniusMy first answer should be: If you're so well educated, why misspell the title?
now - i feel that i am quite a logical and well-educated person. i went to a good school (in the top 10 in scotland) and am studying maths and computer science at a good univeristy. so, why do you think i have faith?
But, on a far more intersting note, I have a very learned friend who has a theory that religion is based in genes.
One either has a genetic inclination to believe or not.
22 Mar 05
Originally posted by geniusI think you have faith because you are irrational - assuming you are a Christian. It does depend on what exactly your faith claims, however.
now - i feel that i am quite a logical and well-educated person. i went to a good school (in the top 10 in scotland) and am studying maths and computer science at a good univeristy. so, why do you think i have faith?
Or, you may know something I don't - something you cannot or will not communicate to me.
24 Mar 05
Originally posted by Starrmani would never deny anyone the right to question, but my reading of this post was "why do i belive" so i was trying to explain belief from my own personel belief to help the question. as i stated i question religiuos teachings but still belive in my god and when i here teachers of religion tell parishners do you want to go to hell if they question them, i shudder from inside.
So rather than answering the question you are denying that the question should be asked at all? Anyone that does not question is doing themselves a serious disservice and abandoning their intelligence entirely.
24 Mar 05
Originally posted by stokerWell there is hope for you yet.
i would never deny anyone the right to question, but my reading of this post was "why do i belive" so i was trying to explain belief from my own personel belief to help the question. as i stated i question religiuos teachings but still belive in my god and when i here teachers of religion tell parishners do you want to go to hell if they question them, i shudder from inside.
24 Mar 05
Originally posted by geniusYou believe that you got a good education. And that what life path,that you are on, your education will sustain you.
now - i feel that i am quite a logical and well-educated person. i went to a good school (in the top 10 in scotland) and am studying maths and computer science at a good univeristy. so, why do you think i have faith?