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The question isn't why God needs blood, but why do we, human beings, need blood ?
Originally posted by ivanhoeDon't you think the modern day high priests are the right-wing religious nuts who can't see humanity for their dogma?
Telerion: " ....... You're just making excuses for your idol to spare him our judgement."
Matthew
Chapter 26
Then the chief priests and the elders of the people assembled in the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,
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and they consulted together to arrest Jesus by treachery and put him to death.
http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew26.htm
Originally posted by telerionWhere does your "moral sense" come from? On what or who's authority do you judge what is good or bad? It seems that moral sense is not universal. Hitler had his moral sense, so did Gandhi. So who are you to judge or dispute?
I dispute it. Even humans now have enough moral sense to realize that blood and death for every tiny transgression is heinous. ,,,I say our moral sense cries out that such cruel punishments are reprehensible. ...
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYou more direct about it, but you are in the same boat as telerion. You have defined good as that which "maximizes pleasure and minimizes pain" and on that basis you judge God. But you have not given a justification for making that you definition of good.
I judge God, if he exists, as not fully good because I define good as that which maximizes pleasure and minimizes pain. ....
Originally posted by no1marauderGood thing you don't respond directly to my posts. Better if you just keep making the same fallacious assertions and abuse ad hominems. After all, you know you can't justify your beliefs, so repeating your old pathetic attacks of my beliefs and character is your only chance of convincing anyone. You are a fool.
... surely even you realize that humanity has passed beyond such savagery. ...shows only your psychosis; ... You are a pathetic excuse for a human being, Coletti; ... hateful dogma as yours....
Originally posted by no1marauderNo1: " .....your brothers are "vile" shows only your psychosis; it has nothing to do with the way human beings, with billions of acts of simple kindness every day, conduct themselves."
I would expect semi-savages from thousands of years ago to believe in a "God that demands blood"; after all, many primitive cultures did. Most of such beliefs were based on xenophobia and other self-centered beliefs which considered the tribe or people more important than other "lesser" humans. It's the 21st century now, Coletti, surely eve ...[text shortened]... people will say "Somebody really believed such crap" and shake their heads in wonder and pity.
Originally posted by ivanhoeA reasoning, functioning brain is something you obviously are missing, Ivanhoe.
No1: " .....your brothers are "vile" shows only your psychosis; it has nothing to do with the way human beings, with billions of acts of simple kindness every day, conduct themselves."
Where can I find those acts of simple kindness in your conduct towards your opponents, No1 ?
Am I imagining all your annoying Ad Hominems ?
Am I missing something here, No1 ?
Originally posted by ColettiLMFAO! Who never "justifies their beliefs"? You've dodged numerous posts regarding your ridiculous "predestination" belief system. My post is directly on point; you regard the human race as vile garbage; try justifying that belief. It is also beyond question that numerous primitive peoples believed that Gods "demanded" blood sacrifices. Your posts are the usual tiresome "humans aren't s**t, but my God is wonderful" crap that's been passed on by simpletons for thousands of years. Your superstitious rot combined with liberal doses of contempt and loathing for your fellow Men doesn't cut any ice with me, Coletti; you're RBHILL pretending to be educated (and your laughable attempts at "logic" show you probably didn't complete grammar school).
Good thing you don't respond directly to my posts. Better if you just keep making the same fallacious assertions and abuse ad hominems. After all, you know you can't justify your beliefs, so repeating your old pathetic attacks of my beliefs and character is your only chance of convincing anyone. You are a fool.
Originally posted by ColettiI judge based upon what appears right through reason.
Where does your "moral sense" come from? On what or who's authority do you judge what is good or bad? It seems that moral sense is not universal. Hitler had his moral sense, so did Gandhi. So who are you to judge or dispute?
Originally posted by ColettiBut you have not given a justification for making that you definition of good.
You more direct about it, but you are in the same boat as telerion. You have defined good as that which "maximizes pleasure and minimizes pain" and on that basis you judge God. But you have not given a justification for making that you definition of good.
And it is not without other flaws. For instance - who's pleasure and pain? Some people get p ...[text shortened]... Therefore nothing can be said to be universally good or evil. Are you willing to except that?
Originally posted by no1maraudercan a scathing be considered an ad hominem? lol
LMFAO! Who never "justifies their beliefs"? You've dodged numerous posts regarding your ridiculous "predestination" belief system. My post is directly on point; you regard the human race as vile garbage; try justifying that belief. It is also beyond question that numerous primitive peoples believed that Gods "demanded" blood sacrifices. Yo ...[text shortened]... ed (and your laughable attempts at "logic" show you probably didn't complete grammar school).