1. SubscriberSuzianne
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    28 Jun '23 07:25
    @fmf said
    An answer to my question - about the thing you daid - would have been more interesting than this bit of generic banter.
    It rose to the level of the question, i.e. not high at all, thus the snark value, sort of a 'snark for snark'.
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    28 Jun '23 10:35
    @suzianne said
    It rose to the level of the question, i.e. not high at all, thus the snark value, sort of a 'snark for snark'.
    You're still dodging the question.
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    28 Jun '23 11:19
    @suzianne said
    If you were an eternal being and made a kitchen cabinet, would that kitchen cabinet be eternal just because you are?
    It could mean the materials used to assemble that cabinet always existed.

    "Matter cannot be created nor destroyed"--- Law of Conservation of Mass
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    28 Jun '23 14:11
    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Eternity consists of an endless series of 'big bangs' and 'big crunches.'
    Then it would not have "always been here", but rather a series of universes, one after the other.

    Like death, there's no visiting "the other side", and no record detailing anything from a prior universe. It might as well not exist (for us, anyways).
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    28 Jun '23 15:15
    @suzianne said
    Then it would not have "always been here", but rather a series of universes, one after the other.

    Like death, there's no visiting "the other side", and no record detailing anything from a prior universe. It might as well not exist (for us, anyways).
    It's the same universe. Matter has always existed, in one form or another. It merely goes through periods of expansion and shrinkage.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    It's the same universe. Matter has always existed, in one form or another. It merely goes through periods of expansion and shrinkage.
    I think reality is much, much bigger than a single universe.
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    30 Jun '23 06:46
    @soothfast said
    I think reality is much, much bigger than a single universe.
    I'm open to that idea.
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    30 Jun '23 11:403 edits
    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    It's the same universe. Matter has always existed, in one form or another. It merely goes through periods of expansion and shrinkage.
    Matter, at the moment just prior to the Big Bang, was entirely composed of energy. E=mc² solved for “m” is m=E/c²

    I think that’s correct.

    Edit: which could be the mathematical formula for creation.
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    @divegeester said
    Matter, at the moment just prior to the Big Bang, was entirely composed of energy. E=mc² solved for “m” is m=E/c²

    I think that’s correct.

    Edit: which could be the mathematical formula for creation.
    Indeed, 'one form or another.'

    And a mathematical formula perhaps for a creation event in an endless cycle of creations.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Indeed, 'one form or another.'

    And a mathematical formula perhaps for a creation event in an endless cycle of creations.
    Sure maybe.

    However the formula indicates that given sufficient power and control then it is possible that there could exist a being capable of manipulating energy into matter.
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