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Jesus rose from the dead.
Originally posted by dj2beckerOk, this is a start, I guess. Could you elaborate a bit more?
Jesus rose from the dead.
Originally posted by TheSkipperOK. I cannot go into all the details, but there are plenty of good books that are written about his resurection. There are plenty of people that have gone out to prove its a fluke and whilest doing the research, they themselves have become believers and had their lives radically changed.
Ok, this is a start, I guess. Could you elaborate a bit more?
For instance...
Is the resurection the only reason you believe? Why do you think it is true? What does Jesus' resurection mean to you? Do you think the resurection is more important than the crucifixtion? why?
TheSkipper
Originally posted by dj2beckerOk, getting better. I'm getting a small peek into your belief system. This sort of approach is going to work wonders for your reputation around here and then you can use that reputation to be taken seriously when you want to talk with someone about what Jesus has done in your life.
OK. I cannot go into all the details, but there are plenty of good books that are written about his resurection. There are plenty of people that have gone out to prove its a fluke and whilest doing the research, they themselves have becom ...[text shortened]... im and have their sins washed away with His precious blood.
Originally posted by dj2beckerIslam believes otherwise..
Jesus rose from the dead.
Originally posted by LemonJelloHey LJ,
okay...this is a step in the right direction.
what evidence do you have for your claim that jesus rose from the dead?
Originally posted by dj2beckerWhile I agree with the consensus here that this is a much more refreshing way to enter into a spiritual discussion/debate, I still don't believe you have answered your own question: Why do you believe?
Jesus rose from the dead.
Originally posted by TheSkipperHi Skipper,
Hey LJ,
I appreciate the question you pose to dj2. It is a certainly valid question and one I have wrestled with over and over again. However, if you would induldge me, dj2 and I are attempting to flesh out WHAT he believes rather than why. I do suspect 'why' will get covered to some degree in this thread but right now if we could all help dj to f ...[text shortened]... ing precise in what I would like to see will help the success of this adventure.
TheSkipper
Originally posted by TheSkipperokay, i see what you are driving at. it's clear that he must believe more than just 'jesus rose from the dead'. after all, he has started many a thread in recent memory with the express intention of trying to demonstrate that everyday people can and do rise from the dead (allegedly with fresh knowledge of the afterlife, but that is beside the point). so if Joe Shmo, who has a heart attack from eating too many buffalo wings and cheese fries, can 'rise from the dead', then i fail to see how rising from the dead, in and of itself, can elevate jesus to any more status than Joe Shmo in dj2's own mind.
Hey LJ,
I appreciate the question you pose to dj2. It is a certainly valid question and one I have wrestled with over and over again. However, if you would induldge me, dj2 and I are attempting to flesh out WHAT he believes rather t ...[text shortened]... ke to see will help the success of this adventure.
TheSkipper
Originally posted by Joe FistOriginally posted by Joe Fist
While I agree with the consensus here that this is a much more refreshing way to enter into a spiritual discussion/debate, I still don't believe you have answered your own question: Why do you believe?
[b]Jesus rose from the dead is what you believe. It does not answer the question why.
I will explain what I mean by my own condens ...[text shortened]... ate that nor would I want to. Anyway that is why I believe what I believe...sorry for rambling.[/b]
Originally posted by lucifershammerThanks. Sincerely.
Originally posted by Joe Fist
[b]When I was ten years old, my mentally disturbed mother ended her life with sleeping pills. My parents were divorced at the time and I was living with my father. Shortly after while in school taking one of my required Catechism classes, I discovered that suicide was considered a mortal sin and if you committed ...[text shortened]... urch prays for persons who have taken their own lives."
Just thought you might want to know.
Originally posted by StarrmanA good starter might be 'The case for Christ' by Lee Strobel.
Originally posted by dj2becker
OK. I cannot go into all the details
Why not? There's no time limit here.
but there are plenty of good books that are written about his resurection.
Can you provide titles, links ...[text shortened]... lain why you believe this and give evidence you think supports it.[/b]
Originally posted by TheSkipperYea, thanks for the post. I'll sure bring it on when I get the time. At the moment I'm rather busy though...
Ok, getting better. I'm getting a small peek into your belief system. This sort of approach is going to work wonders for your reputation around here and then you can use that reputation to be taken seriously when you want to talk with someone about what Jesus has done in your life.
It still needs a little work though. Here are some more suggestions ...[text shortened]... eyes and you will never earn their ear until you change that.
Hope this helps,
TheSkipper