Why is Christianity in the US dying

@pb1022 said
I think you’d be a lot better off if you viewed your interactions with other posters in here as discussions and not debates.

Thanks for this advice too.

@pb1022 said
Well I hope you consider it privately.

I have. And that is that. Thanks for offering it.

@fmf said
It's both.

I don’t view it that way.

@fmf said
Thanks for this advice too.

You’re welcome

@fmf said
I have. And that is that. Thanks for offering it.

No problem, kiddo.

Perhaps you’ll have a heart-to-heart, one-on-one conversation with a Christian in your community. I think it would be very productive for you.

@pb1022 said
Perhaps you’ll have a heart-to-heart, one-on-one conversation with a Christian in your community. I think it would be very productive for you.

Is this the fourth or fifth time you have typed these words in the last few posts?

@pb1022 said
Why do you view this in terms of a debate? I think it’s more of a discussion.In a debate, one side, even when they’re wrong, feels the need to dig in their heels and twist and misrepresent.The objective of a debate is to win.The objective of a discussion is to learn.I think you’d be a lot better off if you viewed your interactions with other posters in here as discussions and not debates.

Gosh. So says you, a poster whose ad nauseam slogans and repeated word strings include umpteen reiterations of how you supposedly "blow" people's ill-conceived ideas and "intellectually-shallow" arguments "out of the water" and how you supposedly beat them over and over again in all "substantive debates".

@fmf said
Gosh. So says you, a poster whose ad nauseam slogans and repeated word strings include umpteen reiterations of how you supposedly "blow" people's ill-conceived ideas and "intellectually-shallow" arguments "out of the water" and how you supposedly beat them over and over again in all "substantive debates".

Those who are good at debate don't need to hype themselves.

Conversely, over-hyping smacks of trying too hard, and covering for inner insecurities.

@fmf said
Is this the fourth or fifth time you have typed these words in the last few posts?

I wasn’t keeping count.

@fmf said
Gosh. So says you, a poster whose ad nauseam slogans and repeated word strings include umpteen reiterations of how you supposedly "blow" people's ill-conceived ideas and "intellectually-shallow" arguments "out of the water" and how you supposedly beat them over and over again in all "substantive debates".

When in Rome…

@bigdogg said
Those who are good at debate don't need to hype themselves.

Conversely, over-hyping smacks of trying too hard, and covering for inner insecurities.

Or trolling.

@fmf said
Referring to your own personal opinions in this way does not add any weight to them as an "argument". Absolutely nothing about your speculation about immortality and eternal torture and truth and facts "is confirmed", no matter how many times you declare it.

How do you confirm something that is not yet happened to be confirmed? The only thing we can do is look at life in the here and now and see if that is adequately described and its causes meet every question given to it. God made the universe, earth, life; there is order to those we can understand. The Word of God made the universe, so as in all words, it is filled with information we can grasp. We see a lot of beauty in the world from creation but also due to the fall of a lot of corruption.

Suppose you need confirmation of what is to come. In that case, I'd suggest looking at what is and first seeing if all explanations cover the here and now correctly or are there great holes where things simply don't add up, like getting everything from nothing, life starting from non-life, no explanation for the information driving all of the processes in life.

@kellyjay said
How do you confirm something that is not yet happened to be confirmed? The only thing we can do is look at life in the here and now and see if that is adequately described and its causes meet every question given to it. God made the universe, earth, life; there is order to those we can understand. The Word of God made the universe, so as in all words, it is filled with infor ...[text shortened]... ife starting from non-life, no explanation for the information driving all of the processes in life.

'The universe seems to have been created > getting everything from nothing doesn't add up > leap > leap > leap > gish > gallop > leap > leap > gish > gallop > you are going to be tortured for not being convinced by ancient Hebrew mythology's C1st offshoot.

@fmf said
'The universe seems to have been created > getting everything from nothing doesn't add up > leap > leap > leap > gish > gallop > leap > leap > gish > gallop > you are going to be tortured for not being convinced by ancient Hebrew mythology's C1st offshoot.

I was hoping you could give me a reason for everything that is here to compare notes. We cannot say our current human suffering is evil and wrong if it is all just a normal part of the process; we can say we don't like it, which doesn't make it wrong or evil.

How old this story is doesn't mean it is true or false, not sure why you think adding the C1st is meaningful.

Hell was created for the devil and his angels, and we, by joining that rebellion against righteousness, goodness, justice, which is God, will also find ourselves in that place as we do the same thing Satan did and does. Redemption is an act of grace and mercy, not something that needs to occur, but because of the love of God, we have been given a chance, squandering that which cost the Word of God to become sin for us only adds to the guilt we have.

@kellyjay said
I was hoping you could give me a reason for everything that is here to compare notes.

Neither of us knows how the universe or how humans originated.