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    13 Apr '10 12:49
    Originally posted by black beetle
    Nope; the effect on the universe is not observable solely by the theist because it is a fruit of enlightenment thanks to the phainomenon of the grace of God. And it is God the agent that will choose whether or not a person will become, if ever, enlightened. Furthermore, this effect is existent although it is not observable by the wicked. Therefore such ...[text shortened]... ists for both the theist and the wicked atheist, and both of them exist in the same universe
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    yes this can even be biblically substantiated πŸ™‚
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    13 Apr '10 13:03
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    i wish πŸ™‚
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    13 Apr '10 13:08
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    yes this can even be biblically substantiated πŸ™‚
    Sure thing😡
  4. Hmmm . . .
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    13 Apr '10 15:24
    Originally posted by black beetle
    Oh it's being a long time my friend, I hope that you and yours are fit and happy!











    I had the feeling that the ground of the universe is mind-only😡
    Same to you, old friend!

    Yes, I wrote all of that badly. I should have realized that when I got to the inseparability. Figure and ground are “not two”.

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    Though late this year, the bees
    today are dancing
    in the wild cherry blooms!
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    13 Apr '10 16:14
    Originally posted by black beetle
    Nope; the effect on the universe is not observable solely by the theist because it is a fruit of enlightenment thanks to the phainomenon of the grace of God. And it is God the agent that will choose whether or not a person will become, if ever, enlightened. Furthermore, this effect is existent although it is not observable by the wicked. Therefore such ...[text shortened]... ists for both the theist and the wicked atheist, and both of them exist in the same universe
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    So essentially, being wicked, it is impossible for the theist to show me, or explain to me his observations, and my scientific instruments will be similarly encumbered. Can I not then claim that as far as I am concerned such a God truly does not exist, because his effects can essentially never be observed by me?
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    13 Apr '10 16:55
    Originally posted by vistesd
    Same to you, old friend!

    Yes, I wrote all of that badly. I should have realized that when I got to the inseparability. Figure and ground are “not two”.

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    Though late this year, the bees
    today are dancing
    in the wild cherry blooms!
    A violin without strings
    plays music all day long;
    Oxen made of clay
    keep up wandering all night long;
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    13 Apr '10 17:03
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    So essentially, being wicked, it is impossible for the theist to show me, or explain to me his observations, and my scientific instruments will be similarly encumbered. Can I not then claim that as far as I am concerned such a God truly does not exist, because his effects can essentially never be observed by me?
    You can claim that In Your Opinion such a God truly does not exist, however you cannot prove by means of scientific facts and evidence that such a God does not truly exist😡
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    13 Apr '10 17:52
    Originally posted by black beetle
    A violin without strings
    plays music all day long...
    A violin, with or without strings, cannot play music!
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    13 Apr '10 18:05
    Originally posted by Badwater
    A violin, with or without strings, cannot play music!
    Hi my ole friend! I hope that you, them kiddos, the Noble Lady and yer raptors are all fine!
    😡
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    13 Apr '10 18:10
    Originally posted by black beetle
    Hi my ole friend! I hope that you, them kiddos, the Noble Lady and yer raptors are all fine!
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    Jimi Hendrix, 'lets just pretend that them fender stratocasters dont have no strings and they will not slip off'.
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    13 Apr '10 18:13
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Jimi Hendrix, 'lets just pretend that them fender stratocasters dont have no strings and they will not slip off'.
    If his 26th parachute jump was as fine as the previous 25, I would love to know what that tricky Scot of yers would say then😡
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    13 Apr '10 18:27
    Originally posted by black beetle
    Hi my ole friend! I hope that you, them kiddos, the Noble Lady and yer raptors are all fine!
    😡
    All are well, many thanks! πŸ™‚
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    13 Apr '10 18:371 edit
    Originally posted by black beetle
    If his 26th parachute jump was as fine as the previous 25, I would love to know what that tricky Scot of yers would say then😡
    Lol, one should not go scuba diving from a parachute jump πŸ˜€

    a statement that even Confucius would be proud of.😡
  14. Hmmm . . .
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    13 Apr '10 22:20
    Originally posted by black beetle
    A violin without strings
    plays music all day long;
    Oxen made of clay
    keep up wandering all night long;
    😡
    And I too, madly—
    with violins in the blooms,
    and bees without strings,
    and oxen unsung
    under spring moons—
    wander and dance
    wander and dance
    wander madly
    wander and dance!

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    I think there ought to be a cue for Robbie and the bagpipes here somewhere…
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    14 Apr '10 01:44
    Ye-haw! Let's have a hoedown. πŸ˜•
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