1. Standard memberKellyJay
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    23 Oct '11 21:56
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    it's not okay to kill plants or animals, but until we figure out how to get energy by photosynthesis, we're going to keep doing what needs to be done to survive, which includes everything from murdering plants and animals to destroying entire communities of living things.
    "murdering" is a legal term, what authority do you go to, to call the killing of
    any plant or animal murder?
    Kelly
  2. Standard memberKellyJay
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    23 Oct '11 21:57
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Don't eat anything with a nervous system, especially a complex nervous system. That's the best rule I've come up with. I don't follow this rule, but it's the most logical one I can think of.
    Who told you, you had to have a rule about that?
    Kelly
  3. Standard memberKellyJay
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    23 Oct '11 21:59
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    would you like some salt with your dirt?

    ah well, there is always used food.
    ROFL, okay...that was funny.
    Kelly
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    23 Oct '11 22:00
    Some lady knocked on my door the other day. She was selling orange marmalade and various makeup products.

    I think she said she was with Jelly Kay.
  5. Standard memberKellyJay
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    23 Oct '11 22:06
    Originally posted by sumydid
    Some lady knocked on my door the other day. She was selling orange marmalade and various makeup products.

    I think she said she was with Jelly Kay.
    I'm not getting a cut of any of that money so....who do I talk to about that? 🙂
    Kelly
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    24 Oct '11 04:57
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    ROFL, okay...that was funny.
    Kelly
    It seems disgusting to me.
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    24 Oct '11 04:58
    Originally posted by sumydid
    Some lady knocked on my door the other day. She was selling orange marmalade and various makeup products.

    I think she said she was with Jelly Kay.
    Now, that's my idea of funny.
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    24 Oct '11 05:03
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    "murdering" is a legal term, what authority do you go to, to call the killing of
    any plant or animal murder?
    Kelly
    i recognize only my own authority.
  9. Standard memberRJHinds
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    24 Oct '11 06:06
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    i recognize only my own authority.
    This is where you will go wrong.
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    24 Oct '11 07:533 edits
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    i recognize only my own authority.
    You have your own authority in as much as is humanly possible, but you don't have final authority to decide what absolute truth is. You would have to be perfect, and above everything in existence to have absolute authority.

    Simple common reasoning will tell you that.

    Man's state or condition, spiritually speaking, causes him to believe in himself as the authority of himself. The natural man baulks(screams and kicks saying "no God" )at the idea that there is a power so absolute, so in authority, that he(man)is subject to Him(God).

    Everything in existence is proof of and evidence for a creator. Man is so flawed spiritually that he will do anything, including denying Gods' existence, in order to maintain the illusion of self authority.

    The knowledge that we belong to the creator is deep within every man's heart. Albeit it is buried under a false facade and hidden behind walls.
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    24 Oct '11 08:40
    Originally posted by JS357
    ...but not animals, spiritually speaking?

    This is not a rhetorical question.

    Obviously this question is directed toward any who think it is not OK to eat animals.

    Some animals are barely distinguishable from some plants. It there a distinction we should look for? Someone said not to eat anything that has a face. That seems self-centered. I'm not being ...[text shortened]... t appeal to scriptural or other authority, or warnings of punishment. They don't work for me.
    Vishwamitra who was a great seer of the ancient days in India, had to eat the leg of a dog, which was all he could get, when there was a great famine in the country. Hence, while vegetarianism is the recommended option for all spiritual seekers, it is not mandatory. As I have posted earlier, many Hindus eat meat except that a theist Hindu will never eat beef. An Avadhoot or a monk who does not have to follow any rules, will eat anything to survive. Vivekananda ate meat.
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    24 Oct '11 10:51
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Why are those things supposed to be important to me when the very creatures
    we are talking about don't care about those rules?
    Maybe some of them do care. Who knows?
    Do you only have empathy for other humans when you know they have empathy too? Why is it important that animals care before you care for them?
  13. Standard memberKellyJay
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    25 Oct '11 22:56
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    i recognize only my own authority.
    So should I assume you never tell anyone else what to think since like you
    they too may only recognize their own authority?
    Kelly
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