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Nobody has been able to prove the existance of the supernatural through observable empirical science. Science is all there is and ever wil be. Science is god.
So, there!
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So, there!
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Originally posted by HalitoseCan you "empirically" test and observe all sciene? What about geology and evolution? What about your principles, can you test the validity of your method?
Nobody has been able to prove the existance of the supernatural through observable empirical science. Science is all there is and ever wil be. Science is god.
So, there!
😛
Originally posted by HalitoseIs emperical or the physical all there is to this, are the molecules, the atoms, all there is to it.??, and if man can only build measuring instruments out of the atoms, and take emperical measurements, there is no way they can ever measure the spiritual, which does not consist of atoms, so that's why you don't have no readings for the spiritual, you fool's.
Nobody has been able to prove the existance of the supernatural through observable empirical science. Science is all there is and ever wil be. Science is god.
So, there!
😛
Originally posted by zombiesBravo 🙂
Is emperical or the physical all there is to this, are the molecules, the atoms, all there is to it.??, and if man can only build measuring instruments out of the atoms, and take emperical measurements, there is no way they can ever measure the spiritual, which does not consist of atoms, so that's why you don't have no readings for the spiritual, you fool ...[text shortened]... knows that they are real, and science has no emperical proof of it.
Anyways enjoy your day.
Originally posted by kingdanwaAre you asking about the scientific method itself?
What about your principles, can you test the validity of your method?
Originally posted by HalitoseEinstein's theories of Relativity were constructed without observable science. It was purely thought experiments. Yes, his thoughts were influenced implicitly by what he saw around him, but the theories did not appear to explain current observation. In fact, very few believed in the theories for years because there was no evidence for their implications, and it wasn't until science itself caught up with the theories that it was possible to start to test them.
Nobody has been able to prove the existance of the supernatural through observable empirical science. Science is all there is and ever wil be. Science is god.
So, there!
😛
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesGreat post.
Are you asking about the scientific method itself?
One can observe that it incorporates induction, which is not a strictly valid method of reasoning, so it incorrect to state that the scientific method itself, or particular applications of it that use induction, are valid.
But very few methods of reasoning are valid, and they are also in the ...[text shortened]... mpirical and the rational is a misuse; man should give the method no jurisdiction in such areas.
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesWow, great insight. Since you have already put a dent in the truth-producing ability of the scientific method, I might also add a few stipulations to your comment about "arguments...whose conclusion must follow from the premises, also known as deductions." Deduction carries with it the assumption that the premises are true. This must be the case in order to have necessarily true conclusions. One can attempt to deduce the premises still more general premises, ad infinitum. In general we find that the premises of our deductions are products of induction, which you have stated to be convenient, but not valid. My final point is that truth cannot be the product of induction, deduction, or any combination of both.
Are you asking about the scientific method itself?
One can observe that it incorporates induction, which is not a strictly valid method of reasoning, so it incorrect to state that the scientific method itself, or particular applications of it that use induction, are valid.
But very few methods of reasoning are valid, and they are also in the ...[text shortened]... mpirical and the rational is a misuse; man should give the method no jurisdiction in such areas.
Originally posted by HalitoseCan you prove the existence of your personality, an emotion, or anything that is not currently being presented to your senses with strictly "observable empirical science"? If you cannot observe them throught science, does that mean they cannot or do not exist?
Nobody has been able to prove the existance of the supernatural through observable empirical science. Science is all there is and ever wil be. Science is god.
So, there!
😛