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Originally posted by robbie carrobieActually I would say that God has hardwired mans desires for women into their DNA. God is aware of what he did. Man cannot control that desire and if he could then the high population growth [which God wanted] would not exist. Certainly some men have more self control than others.
but you suck them up into your mind, if there was no audience there would be no pornography, they exist because of you
This is the reason in my opinion that Jesus did not go around condemning people for sexual offences which Im sure are petty when compared to more serious ones. Woman caught in adultery, another with several husbands. Christ said nothing to seriously condemn them but simply said to go and sin no more.
Pharisees whose offences were pride, lack of love for neighbours, misinterpreting the law .. etc, were more serious than peoples sexual desire.
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Originally posted by Rajk999you cannot control your desires? wow what about Galations 5:22,23 Pornography is not about natural desires its about feeding the mind artificially and the degradation of women.
Actually I would say that God has hardwired mans desires for women into their DNA. God is aware of what he did. Man cannot control that desire and if he could then the high population growth [which God wanted] would not exist. Certainly some men have more self control than others.
This is the reason in my opinion that Jesus did not go around condemning p ...[text shortened]... ve for neighbours, misinterpreting the law .. etc, were more serious than peoples sexual desire.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
you cannot control your desires? wow what about Galations 5:22,23 Pornography is not about natural desires its about feeding the mind artificially and the degradation of women.
(Galatians 5:22-23 KJV)
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Originally posted by Rajk999But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
(Galatians 5:22-23 KJV)
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieSelf control is a desirable trait for sure. But where does one place it on a scale in relation to other more serious offences.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and [b]self-control. Against such things there is no law.[/b]
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat about that nice Leviticus verse that says a woman is worth 30 Sheckels and a man is worth 50? Sort of spells it out right there.
Oh dear you are not handling this very well Zippy. Calm down try to think rationally.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/27.html
Originally posted by sonhouseI have seen you make this comment over and over, but it makes no sense. If you had to hire someone to work would you place the same value on their labour?
What about that nice Leviticus verse that says a woman is worth 30 Sheckels and a man is worth 50? Sort of spells it out right there.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/27.html
Originally posted by RJHindsi don't allow children to be leaders because they are not qualified to be. am i a bigot because i won't allow an IQ 60 person to handle my bank accounts?
Why does it mean women should be second class to you? What class are children to you?
are you saying not allowing a woman to teach in church is the same as not allowing a child to teach?
bottom line is: if you have a man and a woman both equally prepared to teach god's word or do any other task, and you always choose the man, you are mysoginistic and backwards.
Originally posted by Rajk999Because that verse puts it in stone and goes WAY beyond simple labor abilities.
I have seen you make this comment over and over, but it makes no sense. If you had to hire someone to work would you place the same value on their labour?
They use verses like that to rationalize the degradation of women.
Look at all these religions that don't even allow women to be in the same room as men in a synagogue or church or Mosque?
You think that is just incidental? A frigging COINCIDENCE?
Originally posted by sonhouseLev 27 places a rough value on all types of labour which the priests hire to live/work in the temple - men, women, children, babies, animals. The final value is up to the priests themselves if they prefer to change it.
Because that verse puts it in stone and goes WAY beyond simple labor abilities.
They use verses like that to rationalize the degradation of women.
Look at all these religions that don't even allow women to be in the same room as men in a synagogue or church or Mosque?
You think that is just incidental? A frigging COINCIDENCE?
Your claim that this is the root cause of all discrimination in the world against women is bull.
Originally posted by sonhouseHowever, Christianity is different than the other religions.
Because that verse puts it in stone and goes WAY beyond simple labor abilities.
They use verses like that to rationalize the degradation of women.
Look at all these religions that don't even allow women to be in the same room as men in a synagogue or church or Mosque?
You think that is just incidental? A frigging COINCIDENCE?