@Arkturos saidI don’t care what you think about me. My question to you is, what makes someone a Christian? Where do you go for your references on what is and is not a Christian? If all you want to do is run me down, fine, you have a history of that here with others.
Your dodge has me doubting that you are a Christian, and that you are perhaps here to challenge "the Christians" in a different way than I might.
@KellyJay saidWhat ever happened to "Abide in Christ, and He in me"?
I don’t care what you think about me. My question to you is, what makes someone a Christian? Where do you go for your references on what is and is not a Christian? If all you want to do is run me down, fine, you have a history of that here with others.
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“My question to you is, what makes someone a Christian?”
Good question. In order to believe in Christ and follow his teachings surely we must believe He is the son of God. From that follows a belief in the immaculate conception and the resurrection from the dead. Now, as an interested onlooker, I can certainly follow, or at least try to, Christ’s teachings, but I have a problem with the nature of His birth and death. Now if I don’t believe these can I still call myself a Christian? Am I no different to a Buddhist whose teachings are similar to Christ’s but without the supernatural claim of being God’s son?
@Pianoman1 saidSort of the point, Jesus being the Word of God made flesh, which means when He went to the cross for us! God didn’t just make another human to die for all of the other humans; He became a human to die for us. So becoming a man was never going to be by normal processes, and if you mean Mary’s birth was an immaculate conception, no, she was just an ordinary girl. Jesus's rising from the dead was predicted and announced before He did it. Again, not the norm, and those who refuse to accept because it all isn’t ‘normal’, why would God entering into humanity be what we would call normal?
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“My question to you is, what makes someone a Christian?”
Good question. In order to believe in Christ and follow his teachings surely we must believe He is the son of God. From that follows a belief in the immaculate conception and the resurrection from the dead. Now, as an interested onlooker, I can certainly follow, or at least try to, Christ’s teachings, bu ...[text shortened]... dhist whose teachings are similar to Christ’s but without the supernatural claim of being God’s son?
@Arkturos saidYou want me to blow smoke for you, try to say only those things that make you happy, not sad? Tickle your ears with fine-sounding words that will not change your life by hiding the truth of Jesus Christ?
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Edit: You are beginning to seem false to me, and not in a helpful and respectful way.
Those called were 'of the flesh', as was Christ of the flesh in order to cover sinful humanity, but unlike pagan cultures there wasn't an end of story then. Called disciples experienced a phase converting in the first years. So it was more like boot camp, and come time they entered into ministry.
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@Oblation-Ants saidThe sanctifying work of God is taking a sinful man and doing to him what God had always intended when God said, “Let us make man in our image.” God’s intentions for man have not changed. Not unlike God’s saving work of salvation from sin, was His rescuing His people from Egypt. God saves them first, bringing them out of Egypt; then the walk begins.
Those called were 'of the flesh', as was Christ of the flesh in order to cover sinful humanity, but unlike pagan cultures there wasn't an end of story then. Called disciples experienced a phase converting in the first years. So it was more like boot camp, and come time they entered into ministry.
It is in that walk that God begins to get the Egypt out of His people; it’s not much different with us as we war against the world, flesh, the devil, striving to walk in faith, not obeying our sinful nature. God saves us first, then we start walking with Him. We don’t earn the right to walk with Him by our good behavior, self-righteousness, or good works; we do not do good works to be accepted, we do them out of gratitude for being accepted.
@Revenant-Eleven saidGod became a man, lived as one of us, showed us God’s nature in human terms we could understand. Than died taking on all of our guilt, upon Himself. Nothing about works flesh there.
Wouldn't that be considered a Work of the Flesh with a capital W and a capital F?
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@KellyJay saidThat's as silly as saying "God became the Arcturian Spider Crystals, who don't get around much, and never bother anyone else."
God became a man, lived as one of us, showed us God’s nature in human terms we could understand. Than died taking on all of our guilt, upon Himself. Nothing about works flesh there.
