Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem Hmm. While on the one hand I think it's a bit silly for athletes to point to the sky after every touchdown they score, I can't help but think your statement is a tad absolutist. Righteous people are NEVER supposed to pray for a sports team? Why not?
You don't see the difficulty here because you're not religious.
God can't be bothered which team wins, EVER.
Why in the hell would a person pray for some team to win, when there are people going hungry, people getting killed, people being enslaved EVERY DAY?
Which team wins is pretty damned far down God's priority list, and for a person to think it is so important that it should get bumped to the top is selfishness taken to a new extreme.
Originally posted by @suzianne You don't see the difficulty here because you're not religious.
God can't be bothered which team wins, EVER.
Why in the hell would a person pray for some team to win, when there are people going hungry, people getting killed, people being enslaved EVERY DAY?
Which team wins is pretty damned far down God's priority list, and for a person to think i ...[text shortened]... d to the top is selfishness taken to a new extreme.
No, no righteous man would pray for that.
Who said anything about changing God's priority list?
So you're only allowed to pray about hunger, killing, and slavery...I guess people in the first world don't get to pray for much in their local lives, then?
Originally posted by @divegeester Are you talking about children suffering down through the millennia, or just the children that have caught your political eye this last week?
The whole lot.
The Holocaust kids, the starving, the diseased, my daughter.
Originally posted by @suzianne Which team wins is pretty damned far down God's priority list, and for a person to think it is so important that it should get bumped to the top is selfishness taken to a new extreme.
No, no righteous man would pray for that.
Then in one fell swoop you judge all people who pray for their sports team to win, as being unrighteousness...is that what you are saying?
Originally posted by @divegeester Then in one fell swoop you judge all people who pray for their sports team to win, as being unrighteousness[sic]...is that what you are saying?
unrighteous .. I think that is what she is saying.
Originally posted by @divegeester Then in one fell swoop you judge all people who pray for their sports team to win, as being unrighteousness...is that what you are saying?
Nope, you have the cart before the horse.
Not, if you pray for a sports team, then you're unrighteous.
What I am saying is that those who DO pray for a sports team do not understand who they pray to. A righteous man would understand that he's wasting his time praying for something so insignificant. Praying for harmony among spectators, or that everyone involved in the game do their best is one thing. But to pray that one team win is simply not God's will, and it simply cheapens the act of prayer. What I SAID was that a righteous man would never pray that one team win over another team. I did not say that if one does pray for that that they are automatically "unrighteous". There are vanishingly few biblically righteous people on the earth anymore. But that also doesn't make them wicked, sinful or evil, like you apparently would like to suggest I'm saying.
Originally posted by @suzianne Nope, you have the cart before the horse.
Not, if you pray for a sports team, then you're unrighteous.
What I am saying is that those who DO pray for a sports team do not understand who they pray to. A righteous man would understand that he's wasting his time praying for something so insignificant. Praying for harmony among spectators, or that ever ...[text shortened]... pparently would like to suggest I'm saying.
Don't worry about it. I wasn't singling you out.
Err no, there is no cart nor a horse...how you have got carts and horses into this is funny. No, actually what you have posted is a load of obfuscation and waffle.
Here is what you said:
“No, no righteous man would pray for that” (his team to win).
So you are in fact saying that any person who prays for their team to win is unrighteous and in one fell swoop you condem billions under your partisan hammer.
Originally posted by @divegeester Err no, there is no cart nor a horse...how you have got carts and horses into this is funny. No, actually what you have posted is a load of obfuscation and waffle.
Here is what you said:
[b]“No, no righteous man would pray for that” (his team to win).
So you are in fact saying that any person who prays for their team to win is unrighteous a ...[text shortened]... billions under your partisan hammer.
Nice one...
PS ever prayed for your team to win? 😉[/b]
I think what she's saying is that if a man is righteous, he would pray for more important things and not be bothered praying about a sports event.
Maybe you're confused with the way she phrased it.
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