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    29 May '06 18:54
    Question for all people:

    Would you still eat the apple knowing what God's response was?
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    29 May '06 18:58
    Originally posted by danielsmith
    Question for all people:

    Would you still eat the apple knowing what God's response was?
    Absolutley. As a reasoning being, with free will (supposedly, given the christian standpoint), not only do I have the right, I have a duty to do so. If god gave me the ability to make my own decisions and yet, knowing in his infinite wisdom that I would naturally be imperfect, placed a temptation that large in the Garden, then he gets everything he's asking for. I'd hate to disappoint his omniscience.
  3. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    29 May '06 19:26
    Originally posted by danielsmith
    Question for all people:

    Would you still eat the apple knowing what God's response was?
    Pits and all
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    29 May '06 19:27
    Originally posted by danielsmith
    Question for all people:

    Would you still eat the apple knowing what God's response was?
    Described the apple.
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    29 May '06 19:34
    Originally posted by danielsmith
    Question for all people:

    Would you still eat the apple knowing what God's response was?
    Which apple?

    And if it was a Granny Smith...no. I don't like them.
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    29 May '06 19:53
    Originally posted by danielsmith
    Question for all people:

    Would you still eat the apple knowing what God's response was?
    It's a foregone conclusion that everyone would have, eventually. Of course, it's difficult to determine that the fruit was an apple.
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    29 May '06 20:09
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    It's a foregone conclusion that everyone would have, eventually. Of course, it's difficult to determine that the fruit was an apple.
    It's a foregone conclusion because, being omniscient, god knew Adam would eat from the apple. He knew, in advance, the exact hour that Adam would do so. It is quite clear that despite his warnings not to eat it, this is exactly what god had in mind all along. His warnings were, in fact, nothing but play acting. It is impossible that Adam could have taken an omniscient god by surprise. So it is abundantly clear that if mankind is in a "fallen" state, it is because that is exactly where god wanted them to be.
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    29 May '06 20:13
    Originally posted by rwingett
    It's a foregone conclusion because, being omniscient, god knew Adam would eat from the apple. He knew, in advance, the exact hour that Adam would do so. It is quite clear that despite his warnings not to eat it, this is exactly what god had in mind all along. His warnings were, in fact, nothing but play acting. It is impossible that Adam could have taken an ...[text shortened]... if mankind is in a "fallen" state, it is because that is exactly where god wanted them to be.
    God's a bit of a bastard.
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    29 May '06 20:18
    Originally posted by danielsmith
    Question for all people:

    Would you still eat the apple knowing what God's response was?
    Oh, *that* apple?
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    29 May '06 20:19
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    God's a bit of a bastard.
    It is impossible that god has all three qualities traditionally attributed to him - omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence. He must necessarily lack at least one of those qualities. Maybe more.
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    29 May '06 20:29
    Originally posted by rwingett
    It is impossible that god has all three qualities traditionally attributed to him - omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence. He must necessarily lack at least one of those qualities. Maybe more.
    You're saying he IS a bastard then?
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    29 May '06 20:31
    Originally posted by Wheely
    You're saying he IS a bastard then?
    He is either a dimwit, a weakling, a bastard, or some combination of all three. In any event, even if there IS a god, he is certainly not worthy of worship.
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    29 May '06 22:15
    Originally posted by danielsmith
    Question for all people:

    Would you still eat the apple knowing what God's response was?
    Absolutely not.
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    29 May '06 23:09
    Originally posted by Wheely
    You're saying he IS a bastard then?
    Does he know who his father is? No? Well then, case closed....
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    30 May '06 00:08
    Wasn't the apple what gave knowledge of good and evil though? And this is in respect to Christianity, which means knowledge of not-sinning and sinning. If I didn't eat the apple how could I know eating it was a sin and that there would be consequences?
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