10 Jul '13 12:04Originally posted by sonhouseThis character's lack of civility and hypersensitivity to himself give the human
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/us/pat-robertson-facebook-remark/index.html?hpt=hp_t5
He is one creepy dude. It wouldn't be so bad if he was just a Hyde park soap box preacher but he has millions of fellow duped followers.
10 Jul '13 14:05Originally posted by sonhouseyes, because if it weren't for religion he would have been a stand up guy and not creepy at all. he couldn't have found something else to be creepy about.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/us/pat-robertson-facebook-remark/index.html?hpt=hp_t5
He is one creepy dude. It wouldn't be so bad if he was just a Hyde park soap box preacher but he has millions of fellow duped followers.
10 Jul '13 14:39Originally posted by ZahlanziNo, because if we didn't have religion, he wouldn't have any followers.
yes, because if it weren't for religion he would have been a stand up guy and not creepy at all. he couldn't have found something else to be creepy about.
10 Jul '13 16:50Originally posted by twhiteheadI would clarify by saying that any irrational belief system can have that effect,
No, because if we didn't have religion, he wouldn't have any followers.
You can be the most terrible human being, but if you say "praise God" every now and then, other religious people will cut you some slack and may even let you get away with great evils that they would not grant an irreligious person.
10 Jul '13 18:10Originally posted by twhiteheadSo you have to be religious to have followers do you?
No, because if we didn't have religion, he wouldn't have any followers.
You can be the most terrible human being, but if you say "praise God" every now and then, other religious people will cut you some slack and may even let you get away with great evils that they would not grant an irreligious person.
10 Jul '13 23:30Originally posted by divegeesterFair point, but the difference between religious zealots and the likes of (at the risk of invoking Godwin's Law) Hitler and such is that to be the former with a crap-load of followers you don't need to be a cult of personality and in a position of unquestionable power. Some arbitrary declaration that "G"od hates X, with no further justification, is usually sufficient to rally the masses into hating X also.
So you have to be religious to have followers do you?
11 Jul '13 00:17Originally posted by sonhouseI don't see him as creepy, I see him as honest and brave, knowing the flack he would receive. I don't totally agree with him, but I just think he is frustrated at the sin he sees around him on a daily basis.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/us/pat-robertson-facebook-remark/index.html?hpt=hp_t5
He is one creepy dude. It wouldn't be so bad if he was just a Hyde park soap box preacher but he has millions of fellow duped followers.
11 Jul '13 05:12Originally posted by sonhouseWashington (CNN) -- Televangelist Pat Robertson wishes Facebook had a 'vomit' button. So that he could click on it every time he came across a photograph of a gay couple kissing.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/us/pat-robertson-facebook-remark/index.html?hpt=hp_t5
He is one creepy dude. It wouldn't be so bad if he was just a Hyde park soap box preacher but he has millions of fellow duped followers.
11 Jul '13 08:03Originally posted by twhiteheaddude, politicians have followers. hitler had followers and not because of religion.
No, because if we didn't have religion, he wouldn't have any followers.
You can be the most terrible human being, but if you say "praise God" every now and then, other religious people will cut you some slack and may even let you get away with great evils that they would not grant an irreligious person.
11 Jul '13 08:17Originally posted by ZahlanziGood point. There are a lot of music idols like Elvis Presley and the Beetles that had their following. Then there are the Movie entertainment idols too. However, outside of politicians like Hitler, the religious cult leaders seem to do more harm.
dude, politicians have followers. hitler had followers and not because of religion.
"may even let you get away with great evils that they would not grant an irreligious person."
dr dre and chris brown each beat up a woman and none were even sorry. kanye is a giant douche. they all still have their followers.
a charismatic psychopath will find ...[text shortened]... se who pervert religion in this way would have found another way if they didn't have religion
12 Jul '13 17:011 editOriginally posted by ZahlanziSo the key is to make smarter humans less susceptible to such manipulations.
dude, politicians have followers. hitler had followers and not because of religion.
"may even let you get away with great evils that they would not grant an irreligious person."
dr dre and chris brown each beat up a woman and none were even sorry. kanye is a giant douche. they all still have their followers.
a charismatic psychopath will find ...[text shortened]... se who pervert religion in this way would have found another way if they didn't have religion
13 Jul '13 05:45Originally posted by sonhouseI think you need to get saved. Then you too would be happy and saying...
So the key is to make smarter humans less susceptible to such manipulations.
I wonder if that would make religions go away?
Looks like it would at least make dictatorships less likely.
13 Jul '13 08:51Originally posted by AgergI think the silly use of Hitler in defence of an obvious fallacy is compounded by your inference that people followed him because he was religious.
Fair point, but the difference between religious zealots and the likes of (at the risk of invoking Godwin's Law) Hitler and such is that to be the former with a crap-load of followers you don't need to be a cult of personality and in a position of unquestionable power. Some arbitrary declaration that "G"od hates X, with no further justification, is usually sufficient to rally the masses into hating X also.
You wonder why I dislike religion? Look at this:
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