Zen masters

Originally posted by SwissGambit
No. My experience suggests the opposite. I am not a Buddhist.

What your experience suggests?
😵

Originally posted by karoly aczel
But he was still influenced heavily by the words of Zen masters, was he not?

You're right. He had great friendships with Suzuki and others who must have had an enormous influence on him. But he never undertook formally to be a pupil of a particular master.

I suppose a Zen teacher will attempt to show you, step by step, that you are looking for what you already have and it migh be possible, in this "sudden" school of Buddhism, to achieve that without a teacher.....

Originally posted by black beetle
What your experience suggests?
😵

That the self is real.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
That the self is real.

Of course it's real -but it lacks of inherent existence😵

Originally posted by SwissGambit
No. My experience suggests the opposite. I am not a Buddhist.

Apparently opposites are an illusion as well, ie. any'thing' opposing any'thing' else. But again on the surface one could be quick to assume opposition is a reality, especially when many believe the illusion so strongly as to actually give their life for their belief.

Originally posted by Pianoman1
You're right. He had great friendships with Suzuki and others who must have had an enormous influence on him. But he never undertook formally to be a pupil of a particular master.

I suppose a Zen teacher will attempt to show you, step by step, that you are looking for what you already have and it migh be possible, in this "sudden" school of Buddhism, to achieve that without a teacher.....

I believe all worthwhile spirituality has some Zen in it. Even Christians.
Whether they can be bothered to call it "Zen" is not as important to some.
Same with zazen (meditation), some meditate regularly everyday whereas others are more sporadic.
You must know your own dharma to know which is right for you.

Finding this out may take years, hence some meditate for years without any benefit.

Its best to look at Zen like hammer.... a hammer for smashing your normal way of thinking to potentially open a new vista.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Its best to look at Zen like hammer.... a hammer for smashing your normal way of thinking to potentially open a new vista.

I am a Zen master, who wants to be my disciple?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am a Zen master, who wants to be my disciple?

Tempting ...

Originally posted by Bael
Tempting ...

LOL, well death, what would you like to know? i know everything!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
LOL, well death, what would you like to know? i know everything!

This weekends lottery numbers?!

Originally posted by Proper Knob
This weekends lottery numbers?!

alas although i know i cannot divulge to you, such riches would surely lead you on a a path of avarice, unless of course you are prepared to donate every penny to my temple!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am a Zen master, who wants to be my disciple?

thats funny.
they dont go looking for disciples , dicsiples go trying to find masters (which is the opposite of the JW's,etc.)

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
If you are going to practice Zen seriously, do you need a master or can you practice by yourself.

No

Originally posted by vistesd
No

Heh.

Is the coffee warm or cold?

No.