Originally posted by @fmfBecker says "I think when someone is saved their sinning will be less and less frequent as God convicts them of their sin and transforms them into the image of Jesus...."
I think it's time for me to stop. I think I am giving dj2becjer exactly the kind of attention he craves.
Romans answers, "Exactly. Those who have accepted Christ are a new creation."
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeSo when you and FMF agree about something that is conclusive evidence that you are the same person? 🙄
Becker says "I think when someone is saved their sinning will be less and less frequent as God convicts them of their sin and transforms them into the image of Jesus...."
Romans answers, "Exactly. Those who have accepted Christ are a new creation."
*Forum tactic - Agree with oneself and give oneself a thumbs up.
Comedy gold!
You seem to be thinking very clearly for a mental health professional. 😞
-Removed-It is right in the gospels:
Matthew 25:46
"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
Hell is referenced but not as eternal in other places, too, such as
:
Matthew 5:29-30
"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell
There's more like that in the parable of the sheep and the goats.
The old testament is full of punishment. Sodom and Gommorrah, the Great Flood, the exodus from Egypt, the Babylonian captivity due to the worship of false idols. What makes you think there aren't punishments, both temporal and beyond?
God does love the world, abd in loving the world he rewards the just and punishes the wicked.
Tell me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?
Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleGod does love the world, abd in loving the world he rewards the just and punishes the wicked.
It is right in the gospels:
Matthew 25:46
"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
Hell is referenced but not as eternal in other places, too, such as
:
Matthew 5:29-30
"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your ...[text shortened]... ll me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?
Yet it seems most of Christianity believes that the dividing line is based on something else altogether. How do you square this?
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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleTell me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?
It is right in the gospels:
Matthew 25:46
"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
Hell is referenced but not as eternal in other places, too, such as
:
Matthew 5:29-30
"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your ...[text shortened]... ll me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?
This is a strikingly perverse conception of "love". Only someone with a lack of understanding and/or belief in the gospel preached by Jesus could hold such a belief.
Originally posted by @thinkofonePlease elaborate.
[b]God does love the world, abd in loving the world he rewards the just and punishes the wicked.
Yet it seems most of Christianity believes that the dividing line is based on something else altogether. How do you square this?[/b]
I am guessing you are referring to moralism. Simply, doing good, by itself, is enough for salvation. But do go on.
I think I type enough for all of you guys that you need to type a little bit, too. I do most of this from a phone. I can't just sit here having text parties by myself.
Originally posted by @thinkofonePlease elaborate, again.
[b]Tell me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?
This is a strikingly perverse conception of "love". Only someone with a lack of understanding and/or belief in the gospel preached by Jesus could hold such a belief.[/b]
All you did is call this perverse without an explanation.
How am I supposed to respond?
It's not an argument.
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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleDid you not write "he rewards the just and punishes the wicked"? Do you think most Christians believe that the dividing line between receiving eternal life and not, is based on whether an individual is "just" or "wicked" - or something else?
Please elaborate.
I am guessing you are referring to moralism. Simply, doing good, by itself, is enough for salvation. But do go on.
I think I type enough for all of you guys that you need to type a little bit, too. I do most of this from a phone. I can't just sit here having text parties by myself.
Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleVengeance isn't about love. It's about hatred.
Please elaborate, again.
All you did is call this perverse without an explanation.
How am I supposed to respond?
It's not an argument.