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  1. Standard member clandarkfire
    Grammar Nazi
    03 Jul '10 19:49 / 1 edit
    What just happened?

    Why the redone penalty?
  2. 03 Jul '10 19:59
    The ref felt he wasn't getting enough attention.
  3. 03 Jul '10 20:30
    Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
    The ref felt he wasn't getting enough attention.
    Isn't that the truth. Batres is an egomaniac incompetent ref!
  4. 03 Jul '10 20:31
    Originally posted by clandarkfire
    What just happened?

    Why the redone penalty?
    Spaniard entered the box before PK was taken. Retake because of unfair rebound advantage as in basketball.
  5. Standard member Daemon Sin
    I'm A Mighty Pirateā„¢
    03 Jul '10 22:42
    Originally posted by scacchipazzo
    Spaniard entered the box before PK was taken. Retake because of unfair rebound advantage as in basketball.
    Shame he didn't spot the 3 Spanish players encroaching on the Paraguay penalty.
  6. 03 Jul '10 22:51
    Originally posted by Daemon Sin
    Shame he didn't spot the 3 Spanish players encroaching on the Paraguay penalty.
    Encroachment is a dumb rule, but a rule nonetheless. That's the thing about these refs. Missed that encroachment, missed the Villar take down of a Spaniard in the box after the PK retake which would have meant another PK and missed sending off Paraguayan who was cause for the PK. Really uneven, inconsistent rules application. Like Suarez yesterday it should have been a sendoff.
  7. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    03 Jul '10 23:12
    Originally posted by Daemon Sin
    Shame he didn't spot the 3 Spanish players encroaching on the Paraguay penalty.
    Yes, but they were from the defending team so no repetition unless he defends the penalty.
  8. 03 Jul '10 23:35
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Yes, but they were from the defending team so no repetition unless he defends the penalty.
    The rule book states:

    If the referee gives the signal for a penalty kick to be taken and, before the ball is in play, one of the following occurs:

    <cut out the other potential things that can happen>

    a team-mate of the goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game*:
    - the referee allows the kick to be taken
    - if the ball enters the goal, a goal is awarded
    - if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken
    *e.g. not being 10 yards from the spot.

    It should have been retaken, the ref must have simply not seen it.
  9. Subscriber karoly aczel
    Happy Chappy
    04 Jul '10 03:21
    Y'know if it goes in ,then players encroaching in the penalty box is a non-issue.
    Spain scored from the penalty, Paraguay missed.
    But rules are rules and...Gosh ...Spain deserved it. End of story. With Brazil out Spain should win.(Despite Germany)
  10. Standard member Lundos
    Back to basics
    04 Jul '10 03:50 / 1 edit
    I'm pretty much what you call a football fan. Been so for all my life. My backyard when I grew up was literally a football field. I've won numerous titles as a kid at a regional and national level. I'm still playing football albeit at a low level. If the refereeing continues at this level, I'm quitting watching the WC. It's pathetic ... to say the least.
  11. 04 Jul '10 12:02
    Originally posted by hopscotch
    The rule book states:

    [quote]If the referee gives the signal for a penalty kick to be taken and, before the ball is in play, one of the following occurs:

    <cut out the other potential things that can happen>

    a team-mate of the goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game*:
    - the referee allows the kick to be taken
    - if the ball enters the goa ...[text shortened]... ng 10 yards from the spot.

    It should have been retaken, the ref must have simply not seen it.
    i agree with you about the rule but how he didn't see it is beyond me.

    he was worse than the ref in the uruguay match. 4 quartarfinals, 3 terrible refs. seriously fifa sort it out ffs.
  12. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    04 Jul '10 13:03 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by hopscotch
    The rule book states:

    [quote]If the referee gives the signal for a penalty kick to be taken and, before the ball is in play, one of the following occurs:

    <cut out the other potential things that can happen>

    a team-mate of the goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game*:
    - the referee allows the kick to be taken
    - if the ball enters the goa ...[text shortened]... ng 10 yards from the spot.

    It should have been retaken, the ref must have simply not seen it.
    Wrong!

    http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf

    FIFA Laws of the game

    If the referee gives the signal for a penalty kick to be taken
    and, before the ball is in play, one of the following occurs:
    [...]

    a team-mate of the player taking the kick infringes the Laws of the Game:
    • the referee allows the kick to be taken
    • if the ball enters the goal, the kick is retaken
    • if the ball does not enter the goal, the referee stops play and the match is restarted with an indirect free kick to the defending team from the place where the infringement occurred

    a team-mate of the goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game:
    • the referee allows the kick to be taken
    • if the ball enters the goal, a goal is awarded
    • if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken
  13. 04 Jul '10 13:13
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Wrong!
    [/quote]
    a team-mate of the goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game:
    • the referee allows the kick to be taken
    • if the ball enters the goal, a goal is awarded
    • if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken

    • if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken

    pen should've been taken again. end of story.
  14. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    04 Jul '10 13:40 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by trev33
    a team-mate of the goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game:
    • the referee allows the kick to be taken
    • if the ball enters the goal, a goal is awarded
    • if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken

    [b]• if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken


    pen should've been taken again. end of story.[/b]
    You're obviously correct. I somehow was thinking that the pen went in...

    SELF FAIL