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Originally posted by Bosse de NageSouth Africa hasn't exactly go a squeaky clean human rights record either, eh Bosse 😉
Yes, the USA increasingly resembles a totalitarian regime, like China. A disgrace, isn't it.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundNo, but we had a regime change, so now people aren't sent to prison for voicing their opinion. Unlike, say, a Chinese teacher who posts pictures on the Internet.
South Africa hasn't exactly go a squeaky clean human rights record either, eh Bosse 😉
Originally posted by Bosse de NageNo, they don't get senyt to prison. They just disappear.
No, but we had a regime change, so now people aren't sent to prison for voicing their opinion. Unlike, say, a Chinese teacher who posts pictures on the Internet.
So when are you going to defend 're-education through labour'? Or are you limited to your pathetic pot-and-kettle defence?
Originally posted by Bosse de NageIn America, forced "Re-education" is used to prevent kids from listening to Rock music, and stop them being Gay in the bible belt.
No, but we had a regime change, so now people aren't sent to prison for voicing their opinion. Unlike, say, a Chinese teacher who posts pictures on the Internet.
So when are you going to defend 're-education through labour'? Or are you limited to your pathetic pot-and-kettle defence?
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundThat's more interesting than squabbling. Please say more.
most political comentators agree that change is happening.
Originally posted by mikelomMaybe if they allowed total media freedom and freedom of expression, we could get all the 'sources' we need...
It is less regimed than your readings from other sources have suggested to you.
Originally posted by CrowleyAnd the voices of dying Ethiopians and Darfurs and , as Hucks kindly pointed, Zimbabwe. They matter less than Tibetans? Or is it not just unruly to now accept the wrongs of the western countries purely because the Olympics are in China?
Maybe if they allowed total media freedom and freedom of expression, we could get all the 'sources' we need...
I'd like to make up my own mind and not have one person who lived there for a little while just try to shout about how the place isn't too bad over the voices of dying Tibetans.
The post that was quoted here has been removedI am not denying anything, including history of abuse of human rights.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI just think it is the hieght of arrogance to dismiss the failures in your own country, and attack another in such a way as seems to be happening. I mean, four American cyclists wore face masks to prevent from smog........ON THE PLANE OVER. What type of inbred ingrates are you guys sending over there (bosse, i know you're not American, that was a general point....how are Imigrants from Zimbabwe treated in South Africa anyway?) ?
That's more interesting than squabbling. Please say more.
For the record I only hop up and down when people are flatly denying the obvious, such as routine human rights abuses in China. Better to agree that they are happening but say that change is coming than use the argument that people haven't the right to comment because other, different abuses tuously slow pace ... http://www.mg.co.za/article/2008-08-08-zimbabwe-powersharing-deal-close
Originally posted by leisurelyslothWell said.
When China starts treating its own people with respect for their basic human rights, stops occupying and oppressing Tibet, and stops threatening war against Taiwan then I'll possibly consider giving them a little respect. Until that day, they will richly deserve all of the scorn that can be heaped upon them. And I think that the IOC deserves every b ...[text shortened]... an oppressive regime. That was an absolute travesty and I will not be watching that spectacle.