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Originally posted by badmoon:'(
Now don't go silent since youi lost 2 out of 3.
Originally posted by rwingettLet me put this in communist terms. The Tigers spend $115 million this year on their team and are #5 in terms of total dallars they spend on their team. The Twins, however, spend only $65 million and are #24 in the majors in terms of money spent on their team. Having said that, it appears that the Tigers are the more "capatilistic" team compared to the Twins. So why not root for the Twins? Of course, the way baseball ils set up economically, the Twins have no chance and never will have a chance at winning a world championship, but you can still do the right thing and root for the economic underdog.
[b]Twins? Bah! They are an embarrassment to all of baseball. Still playing on turf, are they? How passé.
Originally posted by quackquackI posted something in August in the Reds thread. In it I said the following:
It really makes more sense to look at standings and not to look at payroll. If you live in a city that can't/ won't support a team, then either (1) realize that you are lucky to have a team (2) realize that you might not win as much. (3) form a AAAA league and compete against other similar equal teams.
Baseball has a draft in which certain incompeten ...[text shortened]... etter off (in fact who would even notice)and the world would prefer to not hear your whinning.
Originally posted by whodeyIt is time for you to simply stop crying. First of all, you only belive in equality when it benefits your team. You never say think it is unfair when your #1 recruit Pryor beats Youngstown State and zero players on their roster could make Ohio State's roster.
I posted something in August in the Reds thread. In it I said the following:
Of the top 15 pay roll teams, 11 of them are above .500
Of the bottom 15 pay roll teams, 11 of them are below .500
Of the top 15 pay roll teams there are 4 teams below .500
Of the bottom 15 pay roll teams only 4 are above .500
As you can see, the haves and have nots are m ...[text shortened]... ots may as well not even take the field. They are simply wasting our time as well as their own.
Originally posted by no1marauderI was at the game today. We managed to win one. Of course the stupid Royals couldn't win a single game from their series with the Twins. So there'll be a deciding game on Tuesday. Porcello (14-9) vs. Baker (15-9).
Looks like a Tiger Collapse Redux. Will they lose again today and watch the Twins win the division?
Originally posted by whodeyA "communist" team would not be the one with the lowest payroll, but one where the players collectively owned the team. The Players League of 1890 was set up to do essentially that, but was driven out of business after only one season.
Let me put this in communist terms. The Tigers spend $115 million this year on their team and are #5 in terms of total dallars they spend on their team. The Twins, however, spend only $65 million and are #24 in the majors in terms of money spent on their team. Having said that, it appears that the Tigers are the more "capatilistic" team compared to the Twi ...[text shortened]... e Yankees who spend over $200 million a year come into town? Enjoy the success while you can.
Originally posted by quackquackIt is not crying, rather, it is simply a fact. As you said, my Buckeyes are contenders every year as where other teams, like Indiana, are not. As a result, what you have is a program that is followed closely across the country with very good fan support for OSU as where Indiana, not so much. I will say, however, that I often wish college football would create more parity by playing teams comporable to themselves. Just look at teams like Florida who coast all year, except for teams like LSU, and then walk into the NC. As a fan, I think parity equal insterest and the same can be said for baseball.
It is time for you to simply stop crying. First of all, you only belive in equality when it benefits your team. You never say think it is unfair when your #1 recruit Pryor beats Youngstown State and zero players on their roster could make Ohio State's roster.
Secondl, the fact is that your owner refuses to spend his hundreds of millions dollars on ...[text shortened]... that your might watch your mighty Bengals or someone else might rather watch the Steelers.
Originally posted by rwingettThey did win in 87 and 91, but that was ancient history. I noticed a dramatic change about the mid 90's. I make the bold prediction that no small market team will win the series EVER again unless this issue is addressed. In the meantime, enjjoy watching your Tigers duke it out with the Yankees every other year in the post season. As for myself, I won't be watching. 😴
[Because of the payroll difference it is very difficult for small market teams to win the Series, but not impossible. The Twins have made it to the playoffs four times since 2000, and of course they did win the Series in '87 and '91. They're a well run franchise. But I agree with you (for once) in that I would like to see more payroll parity.[/b]
Originally posted by whodeyActually, you are not just stating facts, you are whinning and it is comletely hypocritical. Your Buckeyes never offer some of their top players to Indiana and Purdue. They could not care about fan interest, mutual TV contracts, shared bowl revenues or improved competition. You just are glad your team wins.
It is not crying, rather, it is simply a fact. As you said, my Buckeyes are contenders every year as where other teams, like Indiana, are not. As a result, what you have is a program that is followed closely across the country with very good fan support for OSU as where Indiana, not so much. I will say, however, that I often wish college football would cre ...[text shortened]... yroll. Of course, it works great for everyone but the pitiful fan of the small market teams.
Originally posted by whodeyYour prediction will almost certainly be wrong. Small market teams have won the WS since the mid 90's (Florida twice) and several others have reached the WS invariably defeating high payroll teams on the way (Rays over Sux last year). You vastly overrate the effect of payroll on winning as has been shown time and time again.
They did win in 87 and 91, but that was ancient history. I noticed a dramatic change about the mid 90's. I make the bold prediction that no small market team will win the series EVER again unless this issue is addressed. In the meantime, enjjoy watching your Tigers duke it out with the Yankees every other year in the post season. As for myself, I won't be watching. 😴