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    15 Dec '17 03:17
    Originally posted by @lemondrop
    Caitlyn Jenner
    bruce jenner was better
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    I'd have to go with Michael Jordan, for being able to do thing that it seems that nobody should be able to do. He was also the single most dominant athlete in a team sport that I've ever seen.
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    19 Dec '17 01:26
    Secretariat
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    19 Dec '17 14:42
    Originally posted by @handyandy
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    Secretariat was a horse, silly Andy!

    People are being talked about not horses! 😉

    -VR
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    21 Dec '17 23:23
    Originally posted by @very-rusty
    Secretariat was a horse, silly Andy!

    People are being talked about not horses! 😉

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    Obviously you never saw Secretariat.

    https://www.si.com/longform/belmont/index.html
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    22 Dec '17 15:12
    Originally posted by @handyandy
    Obviously you never saw Secretariat.

    https://www.si.com/longform/belmont/index.html
    Yea Andy Secretariat was a horse! 😉

    -VR
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    23 Dec '17 21:06
    Originally posted by @very-rusty
    Yea Andy Secretariat was a horse! 😉

    -VR
    In 1994, Sports Illustrated ranked Secretariat #17 in their list of the 40 greatest sports figures of the past 40 years. In 1999, ESPN listed him 35th of the 100 greatest North American athletes of the 20th century, the highest of three non-humans on the list (the other two were also racehorses: Man o' War at 84th and Citation at 97th). Secretariat ranked second behind Man o' War in The Blood-Horse's List of the Top 100 U.S. Racehorses of the 20th Century. He was also ranked second behind Man o' War by both a six-member panel of experts assembled by the Associated Press and a Sports Illustrated panel of seven experts.

    On October 16, 1999, in a ceremony conducted in the winner's circle at Keeneland Race Course in Lexington, the U.S. Postal Service honored Secretariat with a 33-cent postage stamp bearing his image. In 2005, Secretariat was featured in ESPN Classic's show "Who's No. 1?" in the episode "Greatest Sports Performances." He was the only non-human on the list, with his run at Belmont ranking second behind Wilt Chamberlain's 100-point game. On May 2, 2007, Secretariat was inducted into the Kentucky Athletic Hall of Fame, marking the first time an animal received this honor. In 2013, Secretariat was inducted into the Canadian Horse Racing Hall of Fame in honor of his victory in the Canadian International 40 years earlier. Secretariat was also the focus of a 2013 segment of 60 Minutes Sports. In March 2016, Secretariat's Triple Crown victory was rated #13 in the Sports Illustrated listing of the 100 Greatest Moments in Sports History.

    -- From Wikipedia
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    Jacques Kallis. He scored 13,289 Test runs @ an average of 55.37, including 45 centuries, and also took 292 wickets and 200 catches. Best allrounder cricket has ever seen.
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    30 Dec '17 16:00
    Originally posted by @handyandy
    Obviously you never saw Secretariat.

    https://www.si.com/longform/belmont/index.html
    Pft. If Secretariat counts, Red Rum is better. And Frankel.
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    30 Dec '17 18:29
    Originally posted by @shallow-blue
    Pft. If Secretariat counts, Red Rum is better. And Frankel.
    Secretariat could run rings around both of them.
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    30 Dec '17 21:03
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Jacques Kallis. He scored 13,289 Test runs @ an average of 55.37, including 45 centuries, and also took 292 wickets and 200 catches. Best allrounder cricket has ever seen.
    You need to look at who Kallis scored his runs against.

    Sobers best all rounder in cricket history.
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    30 Dec '17 21:07
    Originally posted by @handyandy
    Secretariat could run rings around both of them.
    Thought Man o War was generally regarded as the best ever US racehorse, as the quoted article seems to confirm. Maybe a very long time ago, so forgotten!

    Red Rum would do well to compete for speed with any of them, being a 'chaser' (jumps)
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    31 Dec '17 02:55
    Originally posted by @blood-on-the-tracks
    Thought Man o War was generally regarded as the best ever US racehorse, as the quoted article seems to confirm. Maybe a very long time ago, so forgotten!
    According to Wikipedia (see above), Sports Illustrated ranked Secretariat #17 in their 1994 list of the 40 greatest sports figures of the past 40 years. In 1999, ESPN listed Secretariat 35th of the 100 greatest North American athletes of the 20th century, the highest of three non-humans on the list (the other two were also racehorses: Man o' War at 84th and Citation at 97th).
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    31 Dec '17 14:21
    Originally posted by @lemondrop
    Caitlyn Jenner
    😀
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    31 Dec '17 14:392 edits
    Originally posted by @handyandy
    According to Wikipedia (see above), Sports Illustrated ranked Secretariat #17 in their 1994 list of the 40 greatest sports figures of the past 40 years. In 1999, ESPN listed Secretariat 35th of the 100 greatest North American athletes of the 20th century, the highest of three non-humans on the list (the other two were also racehorses: Man o' War at 84th and Citation at 97th).
    Well, the first list is irrelevant as Man O War was outside the remit

    As for the 2nd, probably biased because Secretariat much more into modern times.

    If I were looking to compare the 2 as racehorses, I would stick with lists exclusively analysing horses! Like the one quoted on the wiki page of both horses, 'The 100 Top US Racehorses of 20th Century'

    That, plus the fact that Man o War has a better 'career record' of wins
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