With the usual caveat about statistics not giving the whole story, here are the career test stats for the players you've mentioned (plus one other - personally I think you've got the wrong Pollock on the list!)
(Tests - runs - batting average - wickets - bowling average)
Kapil Dev 131 - 5258 - 31.1 - 434 - 29.6
Ian Botham 102 - 5200 - 33.5 - 383 - 28.4
Imran Khan 88 - 3807 - 37.7 - 362 - 22.8
Gary Sobers 93 - 8032 - 57.8 - 235 - 34.0
Richard Hadlee 86 - 3124 - 27.2 - 431 - 22.3
Jacques Kallis 102 - 8033 - 55.8 - 200 - 31.7
Andrew Flintoff 64 - 3183 - 32.5 - 193 - 31.4
Wasim Akram 104 - 2898 - 22.6 - 414 - 23.6
Graeme Pollock 23 - 2256 - 61.0 - 4 - 51.0
Sanath Jayasuriya 106 - 6760 - 40.7 - 96 - 34.1
Shaun Pollock 102 - 3515 - 32.0 - 296 - 23.4
The 'usual' consensus seems to go for Gary Sobers, and you can certainly make a good case for that. What surprised me a bit is quite how good Kallis' figures look.
Originally posted by SALADINBeefy for me.
1. KAPIL DEV (IND)
2. IAN BOTHAM (ENG)
3. IMRAN KHAN (PAK)
4. GARY SOBERS (WI)
5.RICHARD HADLEE (NZ)
6. JACQUES KALLIS (SA)-still playing
7. FREDDY FLINTOFF (ENG)- still playing so may move up the list
8. WASIM AKRAM (PAK)
9. GRAHAM POLLACK (SA)
10. SANATH JAYASURIYA (SL)
Flintoff doesn't deserve to be mentioned amongst them yet.
Kallis is class. Hell, that guy has fallen in and out of favour with me so many times, I've lost count.
He just keeps coming back.
When he's on song, he is awesome - he anchors the innings, takes a few wickets with his out-swingers and takes some great catches in the slips.
Shaun Pollock must be rated as the top all rounder at the moment. He's almost 'over the hill'. Lost some pace, but is still painfully accurate and he's batting is pretty damn good now...
Originally posted by SALADINBeefy. Simply because of 1980. You know what I mean!
1. KAPIL DEV (IND)
2. IAN BOTHAM (ENG)
3. IMRAN KHAN (PAK)
4. GARY SOBERS (WI)
5.RICHARD HADLEE (NZ)
6. JACQUES KALLIS (SA)-still playing
7. FREDDY FLINTOFF (ENG)- still playing so may move up the list
8. WASIM AKRAM (PAK)
9. GRAHAM POLLACK (SA)
10. SANATH JAYASURIYA (SL)
Originally posted by mtthwYou're right - stats don't give the whole story.
With the usual caveat about statistics not giving the whole story, here are the career test stats for the players you've mentioned (plus one other - personally I think you've got the wrong Pollock on the list!)
Graham Pollock spent most of his career not being allowed to play Test cricket because of the sanctions against South Africa.
He was supposed to be much better at his peak.
Also, Flintoff's figures are misleading because at the start of his career he was shockingly bad.
If you discount his first 20 or 30 Tests his figures are much much better.
Originally posted by boarmanOK, let's add them to the list:
There is possibly two great all rounders missing ,they are Keith Miller and Richie Benaud.
(Tests - runs - batting average - wickets - bowling average)
Kapil Dev 131 - 5258 - 31.1 - 434 - 29.6
Ian Botham 102 - 5200 - 33.5 - 383 - 28.4
Imran Khan 88 - 3807 - 37.7 - 362 - 22.8
Gary Sobers 93 - 8032 - 57.8 - 235 - 34.0
Richard Hadlee 86 - 3124 - 27.2 - 431 - 22.3
Jacques Kallis 102 - 8033 - 55.8 - 200 - 31.7
Andrew Flintoff 64 - 3183 - 32.5 - 193 - 31.4
Wasim Akram 104 - 2898 - 22.6 - 414 - 23.6
Graeme Pollock 23 - 2256 - 61.0 - 4 - 51.0
Sanath Jayasuriya 106 - 6760 - 40.7 - 96 - 34.1
Shaun Pollock 102 - 3515 - 32.0 - 296 - 23.4
Keith Miller 55 - 2958 - 37.0 - 170 - 23.0
Richie Benaud 63 - 2201 - 24.5 - 248 - 27.0