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  1. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    22 Apr '07 21:11
    Look this chart... 6 teams can win it, wow!

    http://www.marca.com/marcador/rfsh/liga0607/clasificacion_1a.html

    Real Madrid's victory and Barcelona's defeat made it even more
    interesting!

  2. 23 Apr '07 06:33
    .. and not one representative in the last 4 of the Champions League

  3. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    23 Apr '07 09:05
    That is not meaningul... let's wait if it becomes a trend and then
    I'll say you're right.

    In the meanwhile, judging just from that is like thinking one's national
    team is a decent one just because of a world cup won 40 years ago
  4. 23 Apr '07 09:37
    Originally posted by Seitse
    That is not meaningul... let's wait if it becomes a trend and then
    I'll say you're right.

    In the meanwhile, judging just from that is like thinking one's national
    team is a decent one just because of a world cup won 40 years ago
    Not my national team....
  5. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    23 Apr '07 10:46
    Damn, I assumed you were English...

    Missed shot!
  6. Standard member cadwah
    ¯\_(^.^)_/¯
    23 Apr '07 14:43
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Damn, I assumed you were English...

    Missed shot!
    He is English, we own Wales.
  7. 23 Apr '07 15:12
    Originally posted by Seitse
    That is not meaningul... let's wait if it becomes a trend and then
    I'll say you're right.

    In the meanwhile, judging just from that is like thinking one's national
    team is a decent one just because of a world cup won 40 years ago
    Out of interest, when did Spain last win the World Cup?
  8. 23 Apr '07 15:37
    Originally posted by Seitse
    That is not meaningul... let's wait if it becomes a trend and then
    I'll say you're right.

    In the meanwhile, judging just from that is like thinking one's national
    team is a decent one just because of a world cup won 40 years ago
    It is meaningful and it has become a trend.

    The premiership has steadily improved and it's championship results cannot be argued away as a fluke.

    To try and maintain that Real Madrid and Barcalona are still significantly better than the top Premier teams makes no sense.

    The market for players is now more global and so the premiership can afford the best players and the best managers. Spain has always benefitted by its links with S. America, Portugal, Morocco etc.

    I love the skill and intelligence of Spanish football, but hate the cheating and rolling around like nancy boys. It is destroying the world game.

    Their are 12 or so really big clubs in europe, We are fortunate that at the moment our big clubs are rich with great managers and not part of a scandal.
  9. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    23 Apr '07 15:51 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by petrosianpupil
    It is meaningful and it has become a trend.

    The premiership has steadily improved and it's championship results cannot be argued away as a fluke.

    To try and maintain that Real Madrid and Barcalona are still significantly better than the top Premier teams makes no sense.

    The market for players is now more global and so the premiership can a ...[text shortened]... tunate that at the moment our big clubs are rich with great managers and not part of a scandal.
    Yup, well said, yet what would you say about the very short difference
    between the first 6 ranked in Spain and England?

    Can we see that as an indicator of competitive football and parity,
    hence entertainment and excitement for the fans?

    Edit. Indeed, I definitively would not rely on Real Madrid and Barcelona
    to par up with England. Right now it would be a suicide.
  10. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    23 Apr '07 15:56
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Yup, well said, yet what would you say about the very short difference
    between the first 6 ranked in Spain and England?

    Can we see that as an indicator of competitive football and parity,
    hence entertainment and excitement for the fans?
    Depends. Some say that it's because Real and Barça are not playing to their potential. Real is on the up, but it still lacks consistency and Barça hasn't lived up to its potential. On the other hand, teams like Sevilla, Zaragoza and Valencia are definitely playing at a relatively high level.

    My point is that although the excitement levels are high, the quality of the football is not necessarily the best. I'd say I'm enjoying both leagues a lot this year.

    Why choose one? Enjoy both!
  11. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    23 Apr '07 15:56
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Why choose one? Enjoy both!
    Amen!

  12. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    23 Apr '07 16:00
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Amen!

    Hey! You're not supposed to agree with me!
  13. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    23 Apr '07 16:07
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Hey! You're not supposed to agree with me!
    Oh damn, you're right... er... uh... wait, I'll come up with something.

    Soon.
  14. 23 Apr '07 17:28
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Yup, well said, yet what would you say about the very short difference
    between the first 6 ranked in Spain and England?

    Can we see that as an indicator of competitive football and parity,
    hence entertainment and excitement for the fans?

    Edit. Indeed, I definitively would not rely on Real Madrid and Barcelona
    to par up with England. Right now it would be a suicide.
    It used to be suicide for us. Our big thick central defenders cut to pieces by short bursts of midfield counter attacking. For many years we would do relatively well against German and Italians but not understand Spanish and Portugese football.

    I think that you pick the top six wisely, in fact next year you may have more as Real and Barca have so many internal problems and a few of the traditional big Spainish clubs are not in the current six.

    Next year again only 4 teams have a hope at the premiership and the lower teams even rest players against them as they are prepared to lose. The gap is widening.
  15. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    24 Apr '07 05:40
    Originally posted by petrosianpupil
    It used to be suicide for us. Our big thick central defenders cut to pieces by short bursts of midfield counter attacking. For many years we would do relatively well against German and Italians but not understand Spanish and Portugese football.

    I think that you pick the top six wisely, in fact next year you may have more as Real and Barca have so m ...[text shortened]... he lower teams even rest players against them as they are prepared to lose. The gap is widening.
    Perhaps if more 'Abramovichs' take over?

    Then again, I guess it would not be nice to have a national league
    dominated by mobsters.