23 Apr 07
Originally posted by SeitseNot my national team....
That is not meaningul... let's wait if it becomes a trend and then
I'll say you're right.
In the meanwhile, judging just from that is like thinking one's national
team is a decent one just because of a world cup won 40 years ago 😉
23 Apr 07
Originally posted by SeitseOut of interest, when did Spain last win the World Cup?
That is not meaningul... let's wait if it becomes a trend and then
I'll say you're right.
In the meanwhile, judging just from that is like thinking one's national
team is a decent one just because of a world cup won 40 years ago 😉
23 Apr 07
Originally posted by SeitseIt is meaningful and it has become a trend.
That is not meaningul... let's wait if it becomes a trend and then
I'll say you're right.
In the meanwhile, judging just from that is like thinking one's national
team is a decent one just because of a world cup won 40 years ago 😉
The premiership has steadily improved and it's championship results cannot be argued away as a fluke.
To try and maintain that Real Madrid and Barcalona are still significantly better than the top Premier teams makes no sense.
The market for players is now more global and so the premiership can afford the best players and the best managers. Spain has always benefitted by its links with S. America, Portugal, Morocco etc.
I love the skill and intelligence of Spanish football, but hate the cheating and rolling around like nancy boys. It is destroying the world game.
Their are 12 or so really big clubs in europe, We are fortunate that at the moment our big clubs are rich with great managers and not part of a scandal.
23 Apr 07
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Originally posted by petrosianpupilYup, well said, yet what would you say about the very short difference
It is meaningful and it has become a trend.
The premiership has steadily improved and it's championship results cannot be argued away as a fluke.
To try and maintain that Real Madrid and Barcalona are still significantly better than the top Premier teams makes no sense.
The market for players is now more global and so the premiership can a ...[text shortened]... tunate that at the moment our big clubs are rich with great managers and not part of a scandal.
between the first 6 ranked in Spain and England?
Can we see that as an indicator of competitive football and parity,
hence entertainment and excitement for the fans?
Edit. Indeed, I definitively would not rely on Real Madrid and Barcelona
to par up with England. Right now it would be a suicide.
23 Apr 07
Originally posted by SeitseDepends. Some say that it's because Real and Barça are not playing to their potential. Real is on the up, but it still lacks consistency and Barça hasn't lived up to its potential. On the other hand, teams like Sevilla, Zaragoza and Valencia are definitely playing at a relatively high level.
Yup, well said, yet what would you say about the very short difference
between the first 6 ranked in Spain and England?
Can we see that as an indicator of competitive football and parity,
hence entertainment and excitement for the fans?
My point is that although the excitement levels are high, the quality of the football is not necessarily the best. I'd say I'm enjoying both leagues a lot this year.
Why choose one? Enjoy both!
23 Apr 07
Originally posted by SeitseIt used to be suicide for us. Our big thick central defenders cut to pieces by short bursts of midfield counter attacking. For many years we would do relatively well against German and Italians but not understand Spanish and Portugese football.
Yup, well said, yet what would you say about the very short difference
between the first 6 ranked in Spain and England?
Can we see that as an indicator of competitive football and parity,
hence entertainment and excitement for the fans?
Edit. Indeed, I definitively would not rely on Real Madrid and Barcelona
to par up with England. Right now it would be a suicide.
I think that you pick the top six wisely, in fact next year you may have more as Real and Barca have so many internal problems and a few of the traditional big Spainish clubs are not in the current six.
Next year again only 4 teams have a hope at the premiership and the lower teams even rest players against them as they are prepared to lose. The gap is widening.
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by petrosianpupilPerhaps if more 'Abramovichs' take over?
It used to be suicide for us. Our big thick central defenders cut to pieces by short bursts of midfield counter attacking. For many years we would do relatively well against German and Italians but not understand Spanish and Portugese football.
I think that you pick the top six wisely, in fact next year you may have more as Real and Barca have so m ...[text shortened]... he lower teams even rest players against them as they are prepared to lose. The gap is widening.
Then again, I guess it would not be nice to have a national league
dominated by mobsters.