18 Nov 10
An Arizona sports writer is quoted as saying, "Michael Vick played so good on Monday night that even dogs were cheering for him."
I don't like the fact that he did all those things to those dogs, but he paid his time and lost his fortune. Now, he's the best thing on my favorite sports team, The Phia.. Eagles, he's acted fairly well, at least, when Vicks in Philly.
We're suppose to forgive and move on, he's made it rather easy.
19 Nov 10
Originally posted by gregsflatI am not a Philadelphia fan or Virginia Tech but as a neutral observer I think the outrage toward Vick is just ridiculous. He served a record amount of time for dog fighting. Guys like Leonard Little and Ray Lewis actually kill humans and serve little or no time and people talk about Vick like he committed the crime of the century.
An Arizona sports writer is quoted as saying, "Michael Vick played so good on Monday night that even dogs were cheering for him."
I don't like the fact that he did all those things to those dogs, but he paid his time and lost his fortune. Now, he's the best thing on my favorite sports team, The Phia.. Eagles, he's acted fairly well, at least, when Vicks in Philly.
We're suppose to forgive and move on, he's made it rather easy.
19 Nov 10
Originally posted by quackquackRay Lewis killed humans? When did that happen? And unlike Vick, he doesn't have a felony conviction on his record.
I am not a Philadelphia fan or Virginia Tech but as a neutral observer I think the outrage toward Vick is just ridiculous. He served a record amount of time for dog fighting. Guys like Leonard Little and Ray Lewis actually kill humans and serve little or no time and people talk about Vick like he committed the crime of the century.
A wiseass remark by a sportswriter directed at a football player? What a disgrace!
19 Nov 10
Originally posted by quackquackQQ: He served a record amount of time for dog fighting.
I am not a Philadelphia fan or Virginia Tech but as a neutral observer I think the outrage toward Vick is just ridiculous. He served a record amount of time for dog fighting. Guys like Leonard Little and Ray Lewis actually kill humans and serve little or no time and people talk about Vick like he committed the crime of the century.
Tell that to David Tant:
Another major conviction came in November 2004 in Charleston County, S.C., when David Tant received a 40-year sentence after at least 40 pit bulls were seized on his property.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/falcons/2007-07-18-vick-cover_N.htm
19 Nov 10
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Originally posted by gregsflatIt wouldn't be the first time a dog reference has been used this year when referring to Vick, gracious or... ahem... not:
An Arizona sports writer is quoted as saying, "Michael Vick played so good on Monday night that even dogs were cheering for him."
I don't like the fact that he did all those things to those dogs, but he paid his time and lost his fortune. Now, he's the best thing on my favorite sports team, The Phia.. Eagles, he's acted fairly well, at least, when Vicks in Philly.
We're suppose to forgive and move on, he's made it rather easy.
Philadelphia Daily News:
http://dogblog.dogster.com/uploads/2010/09/ept_sports_nfl_experts-695946753-1285162747.jpg
Trenton Local News:
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/09/vicktrentonian.jpg
PS - Scacchi and I are having a similar discussino in the Broncos thread.
19 Nov 10
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Originally posted by no1marauderRay Lewis was involved in street fight where two people ended up dead. I am far more bothered by this sort of behavior than Michael Vick, yet Ray Lewis is on the cover of magazines and kids games.
Ray Lewis killed humans? When did that happen? And unlike Vick, he doesn't have a felony conviction on his record.
A wiseass remark by a sportswriter directed at a football player? What a disgrace!
40 years for dog fighting is a joke and it violates the basis concept of proportionalty.
19 Nov 10
Originally posted by quackquack"Being involved" is pretty vague. There's no evidence that he "killed humans" as you originally claimed though.
Ray Lewis was involved in street fight where two people ended up dead. I am far more bothered by this sort of behavior than Michael Vick, yet Ray Lewis is on the cover of magazines and kids games.
40 years for dog fighting is a joke and it violates the basis concept of proportionalty.
I agree 40 years for dog fighting is over the line, but Vick hardly got the harshest sentence ever meted out for it. In fact, his state sentence of three years in prison was suspended. He would have gotten a lesser federal sentence, but he refused to admit his full participation at the plea allocution as well as various types of misbehavior while waiting to be sentenced. Anyway, it's correct he did his time, but that hardly means sportswriters and opposing fans can't ridicule him; I can only imagine how Philly fans would react if Vick came to Lincoln Field in another uniform.
20 Nov 10
Originally posted by no1marauderRay Lewis may not killed someone but if people are making moral judgments about football players he should be not be on the cover of games for children. As for the amount of outrage directed toward Vick, it is simply crazy. Leonard Little and Dante Stalworth and Rae Carruth actually killed people. There should be ten thousand times the amounts of complaints as there is about Vick and the fact that there isn't is just a joke. People hunt inhumanely, people boil lobsters while they are still alive and then eat them. Dog fighting is stupid but It ain't the crime of the cetury
"Being involved" is pretty vague. There's no evidence that he "killed humans" as you originally claimed though.
I agree 40 years for dog fighting is over the line, but Vick hardly got the harshest sentence ever meted out for it. In fact, his state sentence of three years in prison was suspended. He would have gotten a lesser federal sente ...[text shortened]... nly imagine how Philly fans would react if Vick came to Lincoln Field in another uniform.
Off point, but did you see your man Colt Brennan got in a serious car accident? There are so many QB injuries if he were healthy he might have a chance to prove his abilities.
20 Nov 10
Originally posted by quackquackIronically, I mentioned to my nephew (who is a Dolphin fan) earlier today that Miami should think about giving Colt a tryout. Brennan's been utterly starcrossed since graduating; I hope he's all right - last I heard he was in serious condition.
Ray Lewis may not killed someone but if people are making moral judgments about football players he should be not be on the cover of games for children. As for the amount of outrage directed toward Vick, it is simply crazy. Leonard Little and Dante Stalworth and Rae Carruth actually killed people. There should be ten thousand times the amounts of comp ...[text shortened]... here are so many QB injuries if he were healthy he might have a chance to prove his abilities.
20 Nov 10
Originally posted by spurs73One thug at a time! WE care about all of them. NFL needs to clean up. Vick is the only felon being mentioned as possible MVP, not the others. How we got to this sorry state of affairs indicates the culture has eroded farther down than first thought. Vick is a thug from a family of thugs. Not even particularly contrite. WE'd move on of the NFL grew cojones and stuck to it's behavior standards. Look at Pete Rose in MLB. Has never been reinstated to a degree he could manage again or be inducted into Hall of Fame. Rose did not torture innocent, sentient beings commonly thought of as man's best friend. Sociopaths like him should not be playing.
goodness sakes you yanks still on the Vick/dog fighting sheet. Come on guys move on.
You got NFL players convicted of Murder, Rape, drug dealing..and all u guys ever take about is dog fighting by Vick.
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20 Nov 10
Originally posted by scacchipazzoIf you believe in one person at a time start with people who kill people, not someone who dog fights.
One thug at a time! WE care about all of them. NFL needs to clean up. Vick is the only felon being mentioned as possible MVP, not the others. How we got to this sorry state of affairs indicates the culture has eroded farther down than first thought. Vick is a thug from a family of thugs. Not even particularly contrite. WE'd move on of the NFL grew cojon ...[text shortened]... t beings commonly thought of as man's best friend. Sociopaths like him should not be playing.
20 Nov 10
Originally posted by scacchipazzoHe did the amount of jail time deemed appropriate for his crimes; I see no reason to deprive him or others like him of his chance to earn a living because of his criminal past.
One thug at a time! WE care about all of them. NFL needs to clean up. Vick is the only felon being mentioned as possible MVP, not the others. How we got to this sorry state of affairs indicates the culture has eroded farther down than first thought. Vick is a thug from a family of thugs. Not even particularly contrite. WE'd move on of the NFL grew cojon ...[text shortened]... t beings commonly thought of as man's best friend. Sociopaths like him should not be playing.
20 Nov 10
Originally posted by quackquackAgain, this thug is being mentioned as MVP apparent. If it's all about winning then so be it. However, I firmly believe an MVP should be held up to higher standards. If I were commissioner I'd get rid of the Ray Lewises, Leonard Littles and others. No one should get a pass simply because the dead creature is not human if organized crime was involved. You know full well the potential for organized crime then taking a foothold is great with thugs like Vick playing. I do not believe Vick is contrite at all. Again, I want the whole sorry lot gone. NFL is a privilege, not a right.
If you believe in one person at a time start with people who kill people, not someone who dog fights.