Will the coach of the Jets, Eric "Weasel-Traitor" Mangini, deliberately lose to the Dolphins just to spike the Patriots chances of making it to the playoffs? I mean, if Mangini sees the scoreboard, and sees both Jacksonsville beating Baltimore, and/or the Patriots firmly ahead of Buffalo, then Mangini can't make the playoffs even if he wins. But he can still fulfill his back-stabbing, cheating, benedict arnold, traitorous, weasel-up-the-keister nature by deliberately tanking his game just to make sure the Dolphins win, thereby knocking the Patriots out of the playoffs.
Mangini knows his job is insecure, he knows he sucks as a coach, and once he's fired, he'll never be back in the NFL. Favre already said in a news conference that his arm and shoulders are tired and that he might not return next year (Brett, just shut up!) so who will Mangini have at QB to hold his team - and his job - together? The answer: no one. Mangini knows his ride is over. And what better way go out than pulling a trekkian Khan, "No...no you can't get away... from Hell's heart, I stab at thee...for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."
And before you say that no coach would do that, are you so sure? Are you so sure it didn't happen last week when Coach Jauron of the Bills, already out of the playoffs, inexplicably called those passing plays while sitting on the lead with just over two minutes to play? Jauron knew if he beat the Jets, that was one less chance of someone (i.e. the Jets) knocking the Patriots out of the playoff hunt. With just over 2 minutes to play with the lead, and Marshawn Lynch having rushed 21 times for 127 yards, Jauron over-rode offensive coordinator Turk Schonert's running play and instead personally called a passing play on his own 11-yard-line that left his quarterback exposed to the fiercely desperate rushing Jets defense. Result: blindside hit, fumble, Jets pick it up and run for a touchdown to take the lead.
Then the Bills actually got the ball back two more times in the final two minutes, but after Coach Jauron had a quick whispered word with J.P. Losman on the sideline both times, and the quarterback promptly threw two interceptions to kill any comeback attempt. The Jets win the game, and J.P. Losman refuses to answer any questions about what Jauron said to him.
It reminds me of how the Soviets would force players in a tournament to deliberately throw games to other players in a chess tournament, all in an attempt to manipulate the standings and beat Bobby Fischer. It was unjust then, it is unjust now. But it is reality. So, if Mangini sees the Patriots winning on the Jumbotron, will he sink to a disgusting new low and deliberately lose his game, giving the Dolphins the division, knocking the Pats out, and delighting unsportsmanlike, un-American, traitorous Patriot-haters everywhere?
Yes. He will.
Originally posted by Doctor RatPatriot fans are complete A-holes.
Will the coach of the Jets, Eric "Weasel-Traitor" Mangini, deliberately lose to the Dolphins just to spike the Patriots chances of making it to the playoffs? I mean, if Mangini sees the scoreboard, and sees both Jacksonsville beating Baltimore, and/or the Patriots firmly ahead of Buffalo, then Mangini can't make the playoffs even if he wins. But he can st nsportsmanlike, un-American, traitorous Patriot-haters everywhere?
Yes. He will.
Just because your team cheated, doesn't mean everybody else does.
Originally posted by Doctor RatWhoa, back away from the keyboard slowly. Close your eyes, count to 10 and then envision yourself getting a grip on reality....
Will the coach of the Jets, Eric "Weasel-Traitor" Mangini, deliberately lose to the Dolphins just to spike the Patriots chances of making it to the playoffs? I mean, if Mangini sees the scoreboard, and sees both Jacksonsville beating Baltimore, and/or the Patriots firmly ahead of Buffalo, then Mangini can't make the playoffs even if he wins. But he can st ...[text shortened]... nsportsmanlike, un-American, traitorous Patriot-haters everywhere?
Yes. He will.
Originally posted by Doctor RatMan-gina's job is already on the line... he's not about to let Miami win just to spite the Pats.
Will the coach of the Jets, Eric "Weasel-Traitor" Mangini, deliberately lose to the Dolphins just to spike the Patriots chances of making it to the playoffs? I mean, if Mangini sees the scoreboard, and sees both Jacksonsville beating Baltimore, and/or the Patriots firmly ahead of Buffalo, then Mangini can't make the playoffs even if he wins. But he can st ...[text shortened]... nsportsmanlike, un-American, traitorous Patriot-haters everywhere?
Yes. He will.
Miami is probably going to beat them fair and square, I am sorry to say.
If the Pats can't win their last game, it will be their own fault. It is too bad that things worked out the way they did where Pats need to depend so much on other teams just to get in to the playoffs. If they win week 17 they may be the first team to get 11 wins and not make it in.
It really is too bad, since the past 2 weeks they've played several levels above NY Jets or the Miami Fish.
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Originally posted by PhlabibitI like Bill Parcells, and I think the Dolphins are on the upswing, but I'm not sure the Dolphins are the superior team to the Jets. Look at some of the Dolphins recent wins so far. They only outscored Seattle by two, beat Oakland by two, edged St. Louis by four, stumbled past San Francisco by five, and barely beat Kansas City by 7, but gave up thirty-one points to them in the process. I know the saying about winning ugly, a win is a win, and all that. But come on, Miami only outscored those pathetic teams by a combined 20 points.
...Miami is probably going to beat them fair and square, I am sorry to say...
The Jets haven't done much better, actually losing to Seattle and Oakland during the year, but I think Favre can still have moments of greatness while Pennington can have great moments of not messing up.
Favre is back to pass. Will it be a completion? An interception? Not even Favre knows. It's a Bretterception!
But anyway, yeah, say Mangini is down by 3 points with 8:00 to go in the 4th Quarter. He looks up at the Jumbotron and sees that the Patriots are beating the Bills by 21 with under a minute to play their game at the Bills Stadium. Mangini knows it is all over for him. If the Patriots win, it doesn't matter if the Jets beat Miami or not, the Jets are knocked out and Mangini's career as an NFL head coach is likely over. If the Patriots are going to obviously win, the only thing Mangini can control is whether the Patriots or the Dolphins go to the playoffs. If Mangini suddenly lays down and starts calling a lot of running plays just to kill the clock and punt, effectively tanking the game, that means Miami wins and knocks the Patriots out in tie-breakers.
I'm saying that I think that New York traitorous spiteful PUNK would do it.
"You think you've won, Belichick? You've won nothing!" thinks Mangini as he sees what's happening on the scoreboard. "Pennington," Mangini shouts, "You're going to run three consecutive naked bootlegs."
"Coach, I don't know about th--" stammers Pennington before he's cut off.
"Just do it!" shouts the beet-faced Mangini, knowing that he's scuttling the Jets ship, and also the Pats hopes at a fourth superbowl.
My only consolation is that a loss to Miami will finally bring a close to Mangini's career.
Or am I off base here about the playoff scenario? I was sure I heard that if the Pats win, then no matter what the Jets do, they're out. If that's not the case, then just ignore everything I've said.
Originally posted by Doctor RatIt's true that if the Pats win, the Jets are out. To help your conspiracy theory, the NFL has helpfully moved the Dolphin-Jet game to 4:15 PM, meaning that if the Pats win at 1, the Jets will already be eliminated and can then pursue a nefarious plan to lose. Of course, the Jags will also have to tank their moved to 4:15 game with the Ravens or the Pats would get in as a wild card (if they win).
I like Bill Parcells, and I think the Dolphins are on the upswing, but I'm not sure the Dolphins are the superior team to the Jets. Look at some of the Dolphins recent wins so far. They only outscored Seattle by two, beat Oakland by two, edged St. Louis by four, stumbled past San Francisco by five, and barely beat Kansas City by 7, but gave up thirty-one ...[text shortened]... e out. If that's not the case, then just ignore everything I've said.
The NFL desperately wanting to kill as much suspense as possible, has also moved the Cowboy-Eagle game to 4:15, meaning that if the Bucs win at 1 PM, the Eagles are out and can only play spoiler. Idiotic.
Originally posted by no1marauderNFL commissioner Roger Goodell grew up in New York, and he's been in cahoots with the Jets ever since they tried to smear the Patriots reputation last year. Clearly Goodell has switched the Jets-Miami kickoff time to 4:15 in order to already know the most critical piece of information they need by game time -- whether or not the Patriots have won. Goodell will use the cover of "Oh we switched the Jets until later so we could gather a greater audience for possibly Brett Favre's final game." Very clever. Very clever indeed, Mr. Goodell.
It's true that if the Pats win, the Jets are out. To help your conspiracy theory, the NFL has helpfully moved the Dolphin-Jet game to 4:15 PM, meaning that if the Pats win at 1, the Jets will already be eliminated and can then pursue a nefarious plan to lose. Of course, the Jags will also have to tank their moved to 4:15 game with the Ravens or the Pats ...[text shortened]... 5, meaning that if the Bucs win at 1 PM, the Eagles are out and can only play spoiler. Idiotic.
Originally posted by Doctor RatYour conspiracy theories are getting a little out of hand. While I'm a die-hard pats fan, I refuse to believe that Mangini will throw the game since he has nothing to play for. You have to understand that these are professionals, they are paid to make their franchise win games, not lose them for stupid reasons such as Magini hating the pats.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell grew up in New York, and he's been in cahoots with the Jets ever since they tried to smear the Patriots reputation last year. Clearly Goodell has switched the Jets-Miami kickoff time to 4:15 in order to already know the most critical piece of information they need by game time -- whether or not the Patriots have won. Goodell ...[text shortened]... dience for possibly Brett Favre's final game." Very clever. Very clever indeed, Mr. Goodell.
Originally posted by no1marauderOMG, that's terrible news, whatever will the conspiracy theorists come up with now?
It turns out we were wrong: a Pats win doesn't eliminate the Jets. The Jets can't win the division in that eventuality but could capture the wild card with a win and a Raven loss. Since both those games are at 4:15 PM, the Jets definitely have an incentive.
Originally posted by no1marauderWell that def blows the "lay-down and screw the pats" theory..
It turns out we were wrong: a Pats win doesn't eliminate the Jets. The Jets can't win the division in that eventuality but could capture the wild card with a win and a Raven loss. Since both those games are at 4:15 PM, the Jets definitely have an incentive.
what's this thread about again?