In fact it looks like there is some negligeance in his game when playing low rated people like here: Game 5774196
Originally posted by PonderableGame 5843016
In fact it looks like there is some negligeance in his game when playing low rated people like here: Game 5774196
Indeed, here I simply played badly.
Originally posted by black beetleAgainst all odds, the #3 ranked player in group 13 won't advance.
They do it because this way they earn time, and this is the positive aspect; however the negative aspect is the one I mentioned at my previous post, and in this specific case the third player has definately the advantage at the RHP tournaments.
So, round by round, as the players involved are stronger and stronger, it seems to me that this strategy is ...[text shortened]... e consider that I have already lend you my ears in order not to miss the chance to be educated😵
Originally posted by PonderableHere's another surprising upset. Game 5825341
In fact it looks like there is some negligeance in his game when playing low rated people like here: Game 5774196
Originally posted by no1marauderNo prob; the higher the level the less the players will follow this strategy: if a 2150 and a 2165 agree to draw and the third stronger player of the group is 2130, and every other player of their group is lower than 2050, what do you think? Does the 2130 has an advantage, or not?
If you consider an "exception" something that has happened in every single case where the first two players took a short draw against each other to increase their chances of advancing, then group 13 is an "exception".
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Originally posted by black beetleThe only way to know is through data. So far, the data is unanimous that the 3rd player doesn't advance. Your hypotheticals have nothing whatsoever to do with the instances where the strategy was used. To refresh your memory, you claimed it was an advantage for the #3 in Group 13. I said it wasn't. Who's claim wound up to be more consistent with the data?
No prob; the higher the level the less the players will follow this strategy: if a 2150 and a 2165 agree to draw and the third stronger player of the group is 2130, and every other player of their group is lower than 2050, what do you think? Does the 2130 has an advantage, or not?
EDIT: In fact, you claim that the taking the short draws ALWAYS favors the #3 player:
BB: But in fact the specific rule "as is" favours the third stronger player.
http://www.timeforchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=106743&page=4
Originally posted by no1marauderSo far the data you mention are meaningless because at this turning point the strongest players will advance anyway -at least they have most possibilities to advance that the real weak players of their round. Of course one must be aware of exceptions.
The only way to know is through data. So far, the data is unanimous that the 3rd player doesn't advance. Your hypotheticals have nothing whatsoever to do with the instances where the strategy was used. To refresh your memory, you claimed it was an advantage for the #3 in Group 13. I said it wasn't. Who's claim wound up to be more consistent with the data?
It seems to me that in long term the two top players of each group will avoid this strategy more, because their groups will be filled by more and more stronger players. Solely the data regarding all the rounds can depict clearly the tendensy of the players.
Originally posted by no1marauderI remember very well what I told you earlier at this thread and I believe that it is accurate.
The only way to know is through data. So far, the data is unanimous that the 3rd player doesn't advance. Your hypotheticals have nothing whatsoever to do with the instances where the strategy was used. To refresh your memory, you claimed it was an advantage for the #3 in Group 13. I said it wasn't. Who's claim wound up to be more consistent with the data ...[text shortened]... tronger player.
http://www.timeforchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=106743&page=4
Originally posted by no1marauderIt works.
It's "accurate" but it never seems to work out in reality.🙄
If a 2150 and a 2165 agree to draw and the third stronger player of the group is 2130, and every other player of their group is lower than 2050, what do you think? Does the 2130 has an advantage, or not?