09 Sep 08
Why not invite all the 3.b guys (cludi, seadevil, clivestraddle, stephane, ironman31 etc) back to compete in a "silicon frenzy" event to see who has the biggest cress patch?
The games should be interesting affairs.
They would only be eligible to play in the engine tourni & nowhere else on the site.
How about it?
09 Sep 08
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Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexUm Whats a "bice"
I think Ironman had beaten most of those players when he was at his peak - my money would be on him.
With a bit of a prevailing wind, there could be some more removal of the engines who have made it to the next round of the championships - making for a bice clean final
is that a tactic I never heard of?
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexI don't know that much about him, but from looking at his games and forum posts, I think it is reasonable to suggest that he as well as cludi were genuinly good players, (maybe 2200+), and just used engines to blundercheck, or only in some games.
I think Ironman had beaten most of those players when he was at his peak - my money would be on him.
With a bit of a prevailing wind, there could be some more removal of the engines who have made it to the next round of the championships - making for a bice clean final
17 Sep 08
Originally posted by rja211077Correct me if I'm wrong but I think 3b is refering to section 3 b) of the Terms of Service on this site- http://www.timeforchess.com/myhome/termsofservice.php
can someone fill a curious (relatively) newbie in...what's a 3.b guy? i noticed that clivestraddle had been banned. why? have all those others mentioned been banned for the same reason?
19 Sep 08
Originally posted by rja211077I have no idea.
ok thanks...next question...how are they found out? don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to dodge the bullet myself - i'm clean as a whistle - just curious as to how this type of cheating is weeded out.
But all the players mentioned in the initial post of this thread were banned from the site for some reason. The poster seems to think it was 3b, who knows?!
The post regarding cludi and ironman being genuine players who blunder checked or only cheated in some games also makes me wonder how detection is actually done...
Anyone?
22 Sep 08
Originally posted by BlitzNewbieAs far as I know, for the most part players banned for cheating must have a certain match up rate with an engines first three choices. (something like 85% or so)
I have no idea.
But all the players mentioned in the initial post of this thread were banned from the site for some reason. The poster seems to think it was 3b, who knows?!
The post regarding cludi and ironman being genuine players who blunder checked or only cheated in some games also makes me wonder how detection is actually done...
Anyone?
Plenty of people have questioned that it is simply a strong player, but the highest matchups ever maintained by the worlds strongest correspondence chess players is something like 82%.
Players must also have played a certain number of games; One game will never sufice as proof.
I think cludi was very because he seemed to have a tremendous knowledge of chess, and still keeps up a very interesting chess blog.
I'm not sure about Ironman, but since he beat all the other cheats, and a strong player working with an engine will almost always be better than just an engine, he either was very strong, or just had a very strong engine.
What do you mean, they were banned for some other reason? They were all banned for cheating, 3b.
22 Sep 08
Originally posted by clandarkfireThanks for this background.
As far as I know, for the most part players banned for cheating must have a certain match up rate with an engines first three choices. (something like 85% or so)
Plenty of people have questioned that it is simply a strong player, but the highest matchups ever maintained by the worlds strongest correspondence chess players is something like 82%.
Players must also have played a certain number of games; One game will never sufice as proof.
I think cludi was very because he seemed to have a tremendous knowledge of chess, and still keeps up a very interesting chess blog.
Where is that blog?
What do you mean, they were banned for some other reason? They were all banned for cheating, 3b.
I'm not suggesting anything. Just pointing out that they could theoretically have been banned for any violation of the TOS, or did I miss something here?