1. SubscriberD4V
    Hard Spanker
    Verona, Italy
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    18 May '20 10:33
    name games W D L W% L%
    D4V 3601 2042 343 1216 57% 34%
    Vise 3544 1894 242 1408 53% 40%
    nonkel 3244 1792 184 1268 55% 39%
    Ed Freyfogle 3378 1689 52 1637 50% 48%
    Very Rusty 2826 1484 288 1054 53% 37%
    kingbaz2 2812 1390 98 1324 49% 47%
    chrekh 2656 1360 117 1179 51% 44%
    S h a n e 2486 1316 194 976 53% 39%
    Flipperwaldt 2578 1226 247 1105 48% 43%
    The Postman 2564 1209 74 1281 47% 50%
    fridaypub 2531 1176 177 1178 46% 47%
    felldancer 2571 1164 419 988 45% 38%
    Rhymester 2168 1132 87 949 52% 44%
    pitonboy 2516 1121 251 1144 45% 45%
    Bobla45 1776 1031 179 566 58% 32%
    Giannotti 2173 1010 181 982 46% 45%
  2. Joined
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    18 May '20 13:321 edit
    @D4V

    5 out of the 16 are members of Metallica.
    D4V
    Vise
    Very Rusty
    Shane
    Bobla45

    Fantastic !!

    But to sure......congratulations to all !!
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    19 May '20 07:23
    @mghrn55 said
    @D4V

    5 out of the 16 are members of Metallica.
    D4V
    Vise
    Very Rusty
    Shane
    Bobla45

    Fantastic !!

    But to sure......congratulations to all !!
    It is notable that all these players are over 50% wins
    Is it good play or well set up by their leader
  4. SubscriberPonderable
    chemist
    Linkenheim
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    19 May '20 07:274 edits
    @D4V
    Crazy Aquarists:
    Ponderable 2736 1299 219 1218 47.5 44.5
    Bad Bishops:
    medullah 1088 548 478 50.4 43.9
    In Vino Veritas:
    Sir Lurch 2232 1067 252 913 47.8 40.9
    coquette 4077 1887 371 1819 46.3 44.6
    Widget 4950 2443 100 2407 49.4 48.6
    jimwinrider 1340 635 89 616 47.4 46.0
    honus 1832 881 84 867 48.1 47.3
    Spinning Stars:
    scymstr 3144 1403 173 1568 44.6 49.9
    ZorrotheFox 1708 731 185 788 42.8 46.1
    Lizard King 2071 939 207 925 45.3 44.7
    woodie65 1696 739 122 835 43.6 49.2
    gliff garoup 1598 749 56 793 46.9 49.6
    Gunni 2045 985 108 952 48.2 46.6
    Toadi 1037 505 32 500 48.7 48.2
    Oded Blayer 2749 1333 119 1297 48.5 47.2
    honus 3418 1588 182 1648 46.5 48.2
    granO2 1367 617 23 727 45.1 53.2
    babadad 2117 960 26 1131 45.3 53.4
  5. SubscriberPonderable
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    19 May '20 07:372 edits
    @mghrn55 said
    @D4V

    5 out of the 16 are members of Metallica.
    D4V
    Vise
    Very Rusty
    Shane
    Bobla45

    Fantastic !!

    But to sure......congratulations to all !!
    In Vino Veritas also with Five and they have palyed more games.
    Spinnning Stars (not surprisingly) have 11 People in that category!

    honus has achieved more than 1000 games for (at least) two clans!
  6. SubscriberPonderable
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    19 May '20 08:54
    @d4v said
    name games W D L W% L%
    D4V 3601 2042 343 1216 57% 34%
    Vise 3544 1894 242 1408 53% 40%
    nonkel 3244 1792 184 1268 55% 39%
    Ed Freyfogle 3378 1689 52 1637 50% 48%
    Very Rusty 2826 1484 288 1054 53% 37%
    kingbaz2 2812 1390 98 1324 49% 47%
    chrekh 2656 1360 117 1179 51% 44%
    S h ...[text shortened]... bla45 1776 1031 179 566 58% 32%
    Giannotti 2173 1010 181 982 46% 45%
    on second,rtaher third tought:

    Best Player by wins is Bobla… he should head the list.

    Then a win rate of 57% (yours9 or 58% Bobal's smells of sandbagging.

    Maybe McTayto had a better quota and he was banned form the Clans for sandbagging as the grapevine had it.
  7. SubscriberVery Rusty
    Treat Everyone Equal
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    19 May '20 10:546 edits
    @ponderable said
    on second,rtaher third tought:

    Best Player by wins is Bobla… he should head the list.
    We really don't care about the % part just that all 5 are in the top 15 wins for their clans probably upsets many of you who are not! 😉 😛

    Be careful when you start making accusations at an 18 year old Member of Sandbagging. You best have FACTS to back up your statement. The player has played many game over those years, in clans, club, and who knows how many private games!

    So sad, for all you jealous people! 😉

    -VR
  8. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    19 May '20 10:59
    @Ponderable

    Pondy said: Maybe McTayto had a better quota and he was banned form the Clans for sandbagging as the grapevine had it.

    Do you dispute the fact that he was indeed sandbagging and making it look quite obvious?

    -VR
  9. SubscriberVery Rusty
    Treat Everyone Equal
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    19 May '20 11:432 edits
    @ponderable said
    @D4V
    Crazy Aquarists:
    Ponderable 2736 1299 219 1218 47.5 44.5
    Bad Bishops:
    medullah 1088 548 478 50.4 43.9
    In Vino Veritas:
    Sir Lurch 2232 1067 252 913 47.8 40.9
    coquette 4077 1887 371 1819 46.3 44.6
    Widget 4950 2443 100 2407 49.4 48.6
    jimwinrider 1340 635 89 616 47.4 46.0
    honus 1832 881 84 867 48.1 47.3
    Spinning Stars:
    scymstr 3144 1403 173 1568 44.6 49.9
    Z ...[text shortened]... s 3418 1588 182 1648 46.5 48.2
    granO2 1367 617 23 727 45.1 53.2
    babadad 2117 960 26 1131 45.3 53.4
    Clan Member Challenges

    SubscriberPonderableView Profile
    Games Won
    1299
    Games Drawn
    219
    Games Lost

    Did you get missed from the Clan list Lemon made?

    I believe he was talking about for One Clan not clans put together!!! 😉

    -VR
  10. SubscriberPonderable
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    19 May '20 13:28
    @very-rusty said
    Clan Member Challenges

    SubscriberPonderableView Profile
    Games Won
    1299
    Games Drawn
    219
    Games Lost

    Did you get missed from the Clan list Lemon made?

    I believe he was talking about for One Clan not clans put together!!! 😉

    -VR
    One post on all your Rusty:

    * I said it "smells of snadbagging" and it does. D4V posted this statistics to Show off About his Winning quota thus he focuses on the Point and I think one might ask…

    * Of Course I have played 16991 games on the site, I don't know where your numbers come from. I have played the quoted games for the Crazy Aquarists alone

    * I didn't calim to have made a complete list (to be fair neither has D4V in fact)

    * I did a careful fomrulation of the evident sandbagging by McTayto. But you like it blunt. My equally carefull formulation About the Metallica Players seemd to have been to blunt for you.

    You could have added lemondrop yourself:

    Lemondrop 5136 2716 704 1716 52.9 33.4

    And I don't understand your last Question could you rephrase please?
  11. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    19 May '20 13:442 edits
    @ponderable said
    One post on all your Rusty:

    * I said it "smells of snadbagging" and it does. D4V posted this statistics to Show off About his Winning quota thus he focuses on the Point and I think one might ask…

    * Of Course I have played 16991 games on the site, I don't know where your numbers come from. I have played the quoted games for the Crazy Aquarists alone

    * I didn't ca ...[text shortened]... 5136 2716 704 1716 52.9 33.4

    And I don't understand your last Question could you rephrase please?
    I don't understand what snadbagging is? Can you explain that one?

    I've also played thousands of games.

    All we were talking about people who have played games in one clan. Lemondrop didn't add vise's other clan which he won a very high percentage of in with the best Clan on the Site Metallica.

    I believe you're truely jealous, there has been talk of sandbagging for years, have you been able to prove any of it? NO!!!

    In order to make accusations you have to have stats to back it up, Why has this player not been accused of sandbagging in the last 18 years? I've never seen anyone accuse him of it but YOU!

    Your winning percentage is very high also, does that make you a sandbagger?

    -VR
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    19 May '20 15:23
    @padger said
    It is notable that all these players are over 50% wins
    Is it good play or well set up by their leader
    Every player strives to win more than they lose.
    If they succeed, they will be above 50%. So......your point ?

    As to your 2nd question, I’d be happy to answer that.
    My answer ? A little bit of both.
    A good analogy are golf’s Ryder Cup and Presidents Cup.
    In 2019 at Presidents Cup, Tiger Woods was the captain of the US team and he made up his player list to match up against Ernie Els’ list.
    Tiger did a good job. His team won.

    In clan play, I negotiate with my counterparts set up clan challenges.
    The matchups are reflective of the negotiations of both leaders.
    The game results are the outcome of the performance of each player in the matchups.
    If there is something you’d like to add, feel free to do so.
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    19 May '20 15:401 edit
    @ponderable said
    on second,rtaher third tought:

    Best Player by wins is Bobla… he should head the list.

    Then a win rate of 57% (yours9 or 58% Bobal's smells of sandbagging.

    Maybe McTayto had a better quota and he was banned form the Clans for sandbagging as the grapevine had it.
    Oh dear. Is this starting up again ?
    The list was intended to celebrate those players who have played a lot of chess on this site and in particular, those who have played a lot of clan games during their time here.
    Yes, there are a lot of players who support the clan feature, rather than try to tear it down.

    I suppose one could have started a post that centered on total clan games played, or clan games drawn or lost.
    But it is human nature to celebrate wins.
    Major League Baseball celebrates when a pitcher reaches 500 wins in his career, rather than losses.

    Unfortunately, accusations of sandbagging have crept into a fairly harmless thread.

    I will vigorously defend Bobla45, and any other player in my clan.
    He is a solid player who plays with integrity against solid opponents. And his rating variance is fairly consistent with mine.
    So you can just level those accusations against me.

    I have been a clan leader for about 16 months now.
    And I can say that I have seen many matchups where the opponents of my players were routinely more than 300 points below their personal best ratings.

    Clan challenges are about clan leaders doing their homework.
    If a clan leader doesn’t do their homework, don’t penalize a clan leader who does.

    McTayto who ???
  14. Subscriberlemondrop
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    19 May '20 15:45

    Removed by poster

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    @lemondrop removed their quoted post
    Yes.
    I think the threshold for recognition is 300 wins.
    Good catch.
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