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medullah
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This follows on a bit from my last thred, but we need to try get a bit of momentum on this one.

I've just been setting upchallenges, bumped into Fight Club who have some pretty resonable players, and nothing is happening becasue the leader has gone zzzzzz

We need a safeguard.

1) A sleeping leader is automatically deposed and the leadership goes to the next clan member who has played the most games for the clan

2) Where a clan leader ceases to be a subscribed member there is a 7 day grace period and then the leadership passes to the guy that has played the most clan games.

What say you good people?

shortcircuit
master of disaster

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@medullah
In theory yes, but in reality it won't work.
First because most players don't want any part of running a clan.
Second, it takes a while to learn how the controls work on running a clan, and if someone wasn't there to help you figure it out, it can cause more harm than good.

Following your idea, perhaps if each team had a clan member in waiting who would be willing to run the clan if the leader went AWOL or was incapacitated, that might work. They would have to notify Russ so he could make the switch.

medullah
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02 Feb 23

Nice idea, so we would have to have a nominated second then it may work?

Ponderable
chemist

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Several Clans went defunct when their leader got lost or stepped down. Ofetn you don't have the deputy. Probably the number of clans will go down furher is a second in command is required.

People can send feedback and take over leadership. So if people in the clan don't stir, it is probably because they don't want clan games so dearly that they would take up the reigns.

Very Rusty
Treat Everyone Equal

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@medullah said
This follows on a bit from my last thred, but we need to try get a bit of momentum on this one.

I've just been setting upchallenges, bumped into Fight Club who have some pretty resonable players, and nothing is happening becasue the leader has gone zzzzzz

We need a safeguard.

1) A sleeping leader is automatically deposed and the leadership goes to the next clan memb ...[text shortened]... n the leadership passes to the guy that has played the most clan games.

What say you good people?
@medullah,
As shortcircuit said will not work because of the reasons he gave.

I was thinking what if everybody left decided on who would want to lead them if anyone. If someone is found then Feedback could be sent to Russ (Site admim).

I believe as a rule a club/clan Leader would try and find a replacement before leaving if able to do so.

-VR

Very Rusty
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@ponderable said
Several Clans went defunct when their leader got lost or stepped down. Ofetn you don't have the deputy. Probably the number of clans will go down furher is a second in command is required.

People can send feedback and take over leadership. So if people in the clan don't stir, it is probably because they don't want clan games so dearly that they would take up the reigns.
Not to mention taking over a clan can be a big headache.

-VR

Russ
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In the case of an absentee clan leader, any active player can send feedback and request leadership. In most cases, the switch will be made after a reasonable amount of time.

medullah
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@Russ

Please define reasonable ?

carystover
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@russ said
In the case of an absentee clan leader, any active player can send feedback and request leadership. In most cases, the switch will be made after a reasonable amount of time.
THE GRAND POOBAH SPEAKS!

Russ
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@medullah

After 30 days of no activity, I would consider an account abandoned in most cases.

venda
Dave

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@shortcircuit said
@medullah
In theory yes, but in reality it won't work.
First because most players don't want any part of running a clan.
Second, it takes a while to learn how the controls work on running a clan, and if someone wasn't there to help you figure it out, it can cause more harm than good.

Following your idea, perhaps if each team had a clan member in waiting who would b ...[text shortened]... L or was incapacitated, that might work. They would have to notify Russ so he could make the switch.
First because most players don't want any part of running a clan.
Correct Fred
I took over the Laikers because the previous leader wanted to leave,there was no one else,and It was something I thought I'd like to have a go at.I enjoyed it for a number of years but finding the challenges became a chore.64 squares took over and after 5 years or so simply didn't have the time.We struggled to find a new leader until Pete's thread when an outsider took it on.
The clan forum can be a good guide to a clan members commitment.If there's little activity on there it suggests all the members are bothered about is having games found for them to play

shortcircuit
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@russ said
@medullah

After 30 days of no activity, I would consider an account abandoned in most cases.
Since we have actually had this happen here twice, if the clan leader dies, the clan is screwed for a month? Since you have the controls, why would it be such a problem (if an alternate leader was named) to swap them after a week. If the clan leader returned, He/she could message the acting leader to swap back, and you wouldn't have to get involved. Just a thought. None of us are getting any younger you know!!

l

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@shortcircuit I think you’re expanding on Russ’s answer. I would think that if Russ knew the leader had died, he wouldn’t wait. Also, if there was a way to designate a substitute leader then the time could be shorter. I think the question he was asked was how long would he wait for an inactive leader. 30 days seems reasonable. Death and a designated replacement weren’t part of the original parameters.

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