26 Feb 08
Curious to see if there's sufficient interest to keep a jazz thread going.
As for myself, my interests are as follows: some swing, some bebop and quite a bit from free, creative improvised, avant-garde, etc. I also have in interest in EAI though it probably doesn't really fit here.
26 Feb 08
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOneI'll be honest when I say my understanding of the sub-genres of jazz is limited at best, I'm mainly interested in piano trios or quartets rather than big-band so: Dave Brubeck, Brad Mehldau, Keith Jarrett (I also like his solo recordings), and of course Bill Evans.
Curious to see if there's sufficient interest to keep a jazz thread going.
As for myself, my interests are as follows: some swing, some bebop and quite a bit from free, creative improvised, avant-garde, etc. I also have in interest in EAI though it probably doesn't really fit here.
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Edit: forgot about Oscar Peterson
26 Feb 08
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneI'm a big fan of Oscar Peterson. "Exclusively For My Friends" was brilliant. Also enjoy Cannonball Adderley and several others.
Curious to see if there's sufficient interest to keep a jazz thread going.
As for myself, my interests are as follows: some swing, some bebop and quite a bit from free, creative improvised, avant-garde, etc. I also have in interest in EAI though it probably doesn't really fit here.
26 Feb 08
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Originally posted by SteinbergThat a good list of pianists. I have quite a few recordings by all of those mentioned with the exception of Brubeck (Take Five, Live at Oberlin).
I'll be honest when I say my understanding of the sub-genres of jazz is limited at best, I'm mainly interested in piano trios or quartets rather than big-band so: Dave Brubeck, Brad Mehldau, Keith Jarrett (I also like his solo recordings), and of course Bill Evans.
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Since you like Jarrett's solo recordings, I take it that you aren't locked into only his "standards" recordings. Which do you like best? Someone you might want to check out is Paul Bley. I had a co-worker who really liked Jarrett. I had him listen to an old recording of Bley's. He started laughing and said, "He sounds just like Jarrett." I pointed out to him that Bley's recording was from before Jarrett had put anything out, so "if anything, Jarrett sounds like Bley". He didn't seem to want to buy it, but Bley is a cut above in my book.
Have you heard much by Thelonious Monk? I'd be interested in hearing what you think of him as a pianist. Also Art Tatum.
26 Feb 08
Originally posted by rbmorrisIsn't "Exclusively for My Friends" a box set? Is it all solo and how many discs? Peterson is someone I like, but somehow I've never really fallen in love with him. With him as leader, I only have "Night Train", "Very Tall", and "Porgy and Bess". Is "Exclusively" a cut above those?
I'm a big fan of Oscar Peterson. "Exclusively For My Friends" was brilliant. Also enjoy Cannonball Adderley and several others.
27 Feb 08
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneI absolutely loved "Exclusively for My Friends". You're right, it's a 4-disc set, and it's all solo. Apparently, it was all done at a private party--hence the name. I think you can pick up each disc separately. I highly recommend disc 1. (any of them are good)
Isn't "Exclusively for My Friends" a box set? Is it all solo and how many discs? Peterson is someone I like, but somehow I've never really fallen in love with him. With him as leader, I only have "Night Train", "Very Tall", and "Porgy and Bess". Is "Exclusively" a cut above those?
27 Feb 08
I'm not sure what EAI is. I've never heard it as a jazz form.
I get obsessed with jazz. Listen to it all of the time.
A Miles Davis true story (from Miles Davis The Definitive Biography by Ian Carr)- Leonard Feather visited Miles in the 70's. All around the living room he saw cassettes of Paul McCarthy, Prince, Michael Jackson and other pop artists; but no jazz. When asked Miles said that also liked Journey and The Who. He was aware of other jazz groups but didn't listen to them. He was this way from the 60's on.
Go figure?
27 Feb 08
Originally posted by rbmorrisThanks for the info. I'll have to keep it in mind. Maybe I'll be able to find it at a good price 🙂
I absolutely loved "Exclusively for My Friends". You're right, it's a 4-disc set, and it's all solo. Apparently, it was all done at a private party--hence the name. I think you can pick up each disc separately. I highly recommend disc 1. (any of them are good)
27 Feb 08
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneCheck out the recordings of the Oscar Peterson Trio with Lester Young. It has all that jazz at that time could offer. A great mix - the soulful lyricism of Prez with the amazing technique of Oscar. Having Barney Kessel and ray Brown helping out doesn't hurt either.
Thanks for the info. I'll have to keep it in mind. Maybe I'll be able to find it at a good price 🙂
27 Feb 08
Originally posted by badmoonEAI is Electo-Acoustic Improvisation. Like I said, it probably doesn't really belong here. But since there's a certain amount of cross-over with musicians like Evan Parker, John Butcher, Gerry Hemingway, Axel Dorner, etc. I thought I'd give it a mention.
I'm not sure what EAI is. I've never heard it as a jazz form.
I get obsessed with jazz. Listen to it all of the time.
A Miles Davis true story (from Miles Davis The Definitive Biography by Ian Carr)- Leonard Feather visited Miles in the 70's. All around the living room he saw cassettes of Paul McCarthy, Prince, Michael Jackson and other pop artists; ...[text shortened]... her jazz groups but didn't listen to them. He was this way from the 60's on.
Go figure?
My favorite Miles story goes something like this: A while after forming his quintet with Coltrane, Miles started becoming annoyed because Coltrane's solos were starting to get longer and longer. So Miles said something to him. Coltrane explained that once he got started, his mind would fill with all these ideas and he didn't know how to stop. Miles, being the more experienced musician, gave him the following advice: "Take the horn outcha mouth". 🙂
So where do your interest lie within jazz?
27 Feb 08
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneSad thing about Bird and Trane is that told friends that they had run out of ideas shortly before they died. Red Rodney said that Bird died at the right time because he couldn't live without any further new expression.
EAI is Electo-Acoustic Improvisation. Like I said, it probably doesn't really belong here. But since there's a certain amount of cross-over with musicians like Evan Parker, John Butcher, Gerry Hemingway, Axel Dorner, etc. I thought I'd give it a mention.
My favorite Miles story goes something like this: A while after forming his quintet with Coltrane, ...[text shortened]... advice: "Take the horn outcha mouth". 🙂
So where do your interest lie within jazz?
I like all derivatives of bop - bebop, hard bop. Some big band. A lot of trios and quartets.
The ECM crowd was really terrific as well - Art Ensemble of Chicago for instance.
I'm pretty open minded.
I'm hoping that this thread will introduce newer jazz artists. Brad Mehldau was mentioned before, he is fantastic. Chris Potter is a newer sax player that can really lay it on.
27 Feb 08
Originally posted by badmoonAre you talking about "The President Plays"? I've been tempted in the past, but never pulled the trigger.
Check out the recordings of the Oscar Peterson Trio with Lester Young. It has all that jazz at that time could offer. A great mix - the soulful lyricism of Prez with the amazing technique of Oscar. Having Barney Kessel and ray Brown helping out doesn't hurt either.
For an absolutely sublime recording with a similar rhythm section a few years later check out "Ben Webster Encounters Coleman Hawkins". It's easily my favorite recording within that style.
27 Feb 08
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneWhat I have is a collection of recordings from The President Plays...The President and from two volumes of Lester Young with the Oscar Peterson trio.
Are you talking about "The President Plays"? I've been tempted in the past, but never pulled the trigger.
For an absolutely sublime recording with a similar rhythm section a few years later check out "Ben Webster Encounters Coleman Hawkins". It's easily my favorite recording within that style.
You gotta like Max Roach with Clifford Brown from back then.
I have some Ben Webster as well as Coleman Hawkins. Not sure about that one. My records and CDs are an unorganized mess.
27 Feb 08
Originally posted by badmoonPotter is an interesting figure. I had him as a sideman on a couple of recordings, but he didn't really make me sit up and take notice. Then about 10 years ago I saw him with the Dave Douglas quartet and I definitely went "hmmm...". He's "sneaky good" 🙂 Are you familiar with him as a leader or perhaps Dave Holland?
Sad thing about Bird and Trane is that told friends that they had run out of ideas shortly before they died. Red Rodney said that Bird died at the right time because he couldn't live without any further new expression.
I like all derivatives of bop - bebop, hard bop. Some big band. A lot of trios and quartets.
The ECM crowd was really terrific as ...[text shortened]... ioned before, he is fantastic. Chris Potter is a newer sax player that can really lay it on.
I have to admit that I'm probably extremely open-minded. While I don't have any Art Ensemble on ECM (the ECM sound doesn't really seem to work well in that genre - Holland's "Conference of the Birds" being an exception), I have the Nessa box which I'd highly recommend, but I'm guessing it's outside your current interests. If you'd like, let me better know what you've heard and liked and I can recommend stuff to you.
27 Feb 08
Originally posted by badmoonYeah, Brown / Roach had quite the group, though I think I only have "At Basin Street". Anything else I should put on my "want list"?
What I have is a collection of recordings from The President Plays...The President and from two volumes of Lester Young with the Oscar Peterson trio.
You gotta like Max Roach with Clifford Brown from back then.
I have some Ben Webster as well as Coleman Hawkins. Not sure about that one. My records and CDs are an unorganized mess.
Roach was a remarkable drummer. Listening to him with Anthony Braxton on "Birth and Rebirth", it shows just how versatile he was.