22 Mar 11
Her website explains: "We produce adult movies. We
publish erotic books and magazines. Our works speak
about sex, lust and passion. We enjoy exciting you and
exciting your mind. We make love, not porn. And we do
all this with a feminine, aesthetic and innovative approach."
This is so clichéd that it is inevitable to go 😴
Just another shallow attempt at creating a new revenue
stream and some job opportunities clinging to the desperate
need of Westerners to snap out of their consumerist letargy...
with more consumption! Dong!
22 Mar 11
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Originally posted by SeitseOh dear, you sound like shavixmir.
Her website explains: "We produce adult movies. We
publish erotic books and magazines. Our works speak
about sex, lust and passion. We enjoy exciting you and
exciting your mind. We make love, not porn. And we do
all this with a feminine, aesthetic and innovative approach."
This is so clichéd that it is inevitable to go 😴
Just another sha ...[text shortened]...
need of Westerners to snap out of their consumerist letargy...
with more consumption! Dong!
Consumption is a meaningless label (for distinguishing quality of products). It can mean just about anything that you can spend money on that isn't an intermediate good or investment. To decry consumption and/or consumerism by itself is just a rhetorical device that is concocted to bring about images of fat kids gulping Big Macs and Whoppers while a money-grubbing capitalist counts his profits, but is ultimately empty and devoid of meaning. Consumption doesn't distinguish between Big Macs or fine dining, N-Sync or Tom Waits, or even between a cigarette or an Aspirin.
22 Mar 11
The post that was quoted here has been removedThe vilification of the whole concept of profit (regardless of what the profit was made out) is part of the misleading images I described. That common mistake (for which again the same type of emotional visualization is intended) goes hand in hand with the first one.
22 Mar 11
Originally posted by PalynkaSo, you'd put a Giffen good in the same basket as a
Oh dear, you sound like shavixmir.
Consumption is a meaningless label (for distinguishing quality of products). It can mean just about anything that you can spend money on that isn't an intermediate good or investment. To decry consumption and/or consumerism by itself is just a rhetorical device that is concocted to bring about images of fat kids gulping ...[text shortened]... tween Big Macs or fine dining, N-Sync or Tom Waits, or even between a cigarette or an Aspirin.
commodity when speaking about behavioral economics?
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As for the female porn, I cannot explain it better than
this: it is an iPad.
22 Mar 11
Originally posted by SeitsePorn is not a Giffen good. You only need to look at the explosion of free porn sites to see that.
So, you'd put a Giffen good in the same basket as a
commodity when speaking about behavioral economics?
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As for the female porn, I cannot explain it better than
this: it is an iPad.
But at least now you seem to acknowledge the importance of going a bit deeper than the general attacks on "consumption" who miss the immense variety within that category.
What do you mean by "it is an iPad"? Are you the type that thinks people shouldn't spend money on entertainment?
22 Mar 11
The post that was quoted here has been removedAll I said is that general statements about consumerism are pointless. Unless Seitse digs deeper and explains why female porn is intrinsically worse for society than football, roses, toys and a myriad of other entertainment products then ranting about consumption doesn't mean much.
22 Mar 11
Originally posted by PalynkaI think you totally misread me.
Porn is not a Giffen good. You only need to look at the explosion of free porn sites to see that.
But at least now you seem to acknowledge the importance of going a bit deeper than the general attacks on "consumption" who miss the immense variety within that category.
What do you mean by "it is an iPad"? Are you the type that thinks people shouldn't spend money on entertainment?
I am a great fan of the enterprise and an avid reader of
Coase, with the small caveat of the triple bottom line.
My criticism is actually that they artificially trying to
create a need that does not exist, as it is the case of
eating, drinking water, etc.
22 Mar 11
Originally posted by SeitseWhat does it mean "artificially create a need" when you're talking about entertainment goods?
I think you totally misread me.
I am a great fan of the enterprise and an avid reader of
Coase, with the small caveat of the triple bottom line.
My criticism is actually that they artificially trying to
create a need that does not exist, as it is the case of
eating, drinking water, etc.
And if anything porn reflects a "need" that vastly predates most forms of current entertainment. There is sexual imagery from prehistoric times and porn since film was invented. There were erotic and pornographic pictures since photography was invented, there were sexually explicit images in many Roman cities, etc.
You don't think it's fallacious to label non-basic needs as "consumerism" in such general sweeping terms? Are all forms of entertainment "consumerism"? Does entertainment not have a real value for people? For their sanity, even?
22 Mar 11
Originally posted by PalynkaHa! You got to the real point: is porn an inherent
What does it mean "artificially create a need" when you're talking about entertainment goods?
And if anything porn reflects a "need" that vastly predates most forms of current entertainment. There is sexual imagery from prehistoric times and porn since film was invented. There were erotic and pornographic pictures since photography was invented, there we ...[text shortened]... merism"? Does entertainment not have a real value for people? For their sanity, even?
behavior to womanhood?
It would be like asking: is Clinique exfoliating scrub
a need for males?
22 Mar 11
Originally posted by SeitseWhy does it need to be an "inherent behaviour"? Is football? Is playing chess? Which forms of entertainment are "inherent behaviour"? That's a too stringent criteria.
Ha! You got to the real point: is porn an inherent
behavior to womanhood?
It would be like asking: is Clinique exfoliating scrub
a need for males?
Women like sex. Is this really news? Nope. Do women like porn? I don't see why they shouldn't, especially if made to cater their fantasies too. There are some surveys out there that seem to show that women watch more porn than most people think. Here's an article:
http://www.metro.co.uk/lifestyle/52811-women-who-love-to-watch-porn
These also suggest that they like different things in porn (as expected) so there room for female porn.
