20 Jul 12
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Originally posted by scacchipazzo
You have made me blush musically speaking, Pianoman1! However, I do feel venue makes the musical selection. I'd rather have Dolly Parton blaring at the honky tonk rather than the most sublime Beethoven! Also, if I could go back in time, although I'd love meeting the great Beethoven I also would much rather spend a few nights in Schubertiades rather than ...[text shortened]... t I also dream of the food that might have been served at these artistic yet raucous reunions!
Schubert and Beethoven maybe even challenging one another to an improvisation contest? I slobber at the thought! To be quite honest I also dream of the food that might have been served at these artistic yet raucous reunions!
I don't think Franz Schubert played his own compositions well enough to do so in large public settings. But Beethoven was also a concert pianist. Am I right ?
Creativity wise, of course Schubert produced a phenomenal amount of original masterworks for a relatively short life.
I can never forget how a refreshingly new experience it was hearing a Schubert symphony. I mean as a youth after being already exposed to Beethoven 3rd and 5th symphonies.
20 Jul 12
Originally posted by jaywillBeethoven was regarded as the best pianist of his day and was only rivaled by Carl Czerny. They had a piano playoff and Beethoven blew Czerny away and Czerny never played in public again after that. I am not sure Schubert was a great pianist, but he did improvise well enough to go toe to toe with anyone. Plus a few lagers under his belt might embolden anyone to take a whack at the great Beethoven. Bear in mind that by Schubertiade time Beethoven had not performed much in public anymore and would have been rusty given that he dedicated his considerable energy to composition instead. Either way the fantasy still makes me drool. A night of poetry, music, song, ribaldry, jokes and private introduction of new lieder would have been marvelous indeed. Schubert was accomplished enough on the keyboard to premiere his own lieder. Takes considerable pianistic ability to do so!Schubert and Beethoven maybe even challenging one another to an improvisation contest? I slobber at the thought! To be quite honest I also dream of the food that might have been served at these artistic yet raucous reunions!
I don't think Franz Schubert played his own compositions well enough to do so in large public settings. But Beetho ...[text shortened]... t symphony. I mean as a youth after being already exposed to Beethoven 3rd and 5th symphonies.
02 Aug 12
Originally posted by scacchipazzoAs someone with some small experience with classical piano and jazz piano, I cannot imagine that even the great Beethoven would do well at improvisation, since he eventually went completely deaf.
Can you imagine what that might have been like? Schubert and Beethoven maybe even challenging one another to an improvisation contest? I slobber at the thought!
Practiced fingers will only get you so far, and you'll need a good ear to bring you the rest of the way, when it comes to improvisation.
05 Aug 12
Originally posted by rwingettWhat label is it on now?
I can't believe that album wasn't a huge hit all across the world. He needed a better record label, or something. It may have taken 41 years, but I have found Sugarman.
Would like to know which songs you like best once you've listened a few times.
05 Aug 12
Originally posted by Bosse de Nage'Light In The Attic Records'? That seems to be it.
What label is it on now?
Would like to know which songs you like best once you've listened a few times.
I've just gone through it once so far. I'll let you know, though. There seem to be several candidates.
06 Aug 12
Originally posted by Bosse de NageYou know, it's not the kind of album where there's a "hit song" that stands out from the rest. The whole thing is just a collection of extraordinarily crafted songs. Except, perhaps, for 'Gommorah (A Nursery Rhyme)'. I could do without that one. It was probably a better idea at the time. But I love the rest of it.
What label is it on now?
Would like to know which songs you like best once you've listened a few times.
Sugar Man
This Is Not A Song, It's An Outburst: Or, The Establishment Blues
Inner City Blues
I Wonder
Rich Folks Hoax
Those are perhaps my favorites. I'm loving it.
His second album hasn't arrived yet. I can't imagine it being any better than the first one. Any opinions on your end?
06 Aug 12
Originally posted by rwingettI need to dig it up and listen to it again. Of course I relate well to Crucify Your Mind, probably my favourite. The second album doesn't quite hold up to the first.
You know, it's not the kind of album where there's a "hit song" that stands out from the rest. The whole thing is just a collection of extraordinarily crafted songs. Except, perhaps, for 'Gommorah (A Nursery Rhyme)'. I could do without that one. It was probably a better idea at the time. But I love the rest of it.
Sugar Man
This Is Not A Song, It's An ...[text shortened]... yet. I can't imagine it being any better than the first one. Any opinions on your end?
I am not from the generation that went to war, so reading this was interesting to me:
http://dailymaverick.co.za/article/2012-08-03-resurrecting-rodriguez
I know Mabu Vinyl quite well.
06 Aug 12
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI almost put that song on the list, but I did want to just end up putting them all in there.
I need to dig it up and listen to it again. Of course I relate well to Crucify Your Mind, probably my favourite. The second album doesn't quite hold up to the first.
I am not from the generation that went to war, so reading this was interesting to me:
http://dailymaverick.co.za/article/2012-08-03-resurrecting-rodriguez
I know Mabu Vinyl quite well.
Interesting article. When you say "went to war", I assume you're talking about the conflict in Namibia against SWAPO?
I assume you've never seen him live on one of his previous tours of South Africa?
06 Aug 12
Originally posted by rwingettIt was referred to as 'the border' and extended into Angola. Battle of Cuito Canavale and other stories. See Etienne Van Heerden's story 'My Kubaan'/'My Cuban'.
I almost put that song on the list, but I did want to just end up putting them all in there.
Interesting article. When you say "went to war", I assume you're talking about the conflict in Namibia against SWAPO?
I assume you've never seen him live on one of his previous tours of South Africa?
Unfortunately I didn't get to see him. One of many regrets.
I did get to see James Phillips before he died. Not so very far from Rodriguez in attitude.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Phillips_%28musician%29
07 Aug 12
Originally posted by rwingettI saw him perform here in Durban about 15 years ago. Quite sedate, but sublime nonetheless.
I almost put that song on the list, but I did want to just end up putting them all in there.
Interesting article. When you say "went to war", I assume you're talking about the conflict in Namibia against SWAPO?
I assume you've never seen him live on one of his previous tours of South Africa?